EMBT should receive DM53 or SHARD. OFL F1 is completely inappropiate for a pinnacle-of-the-tree MBT

And I don’t believe the strv122s should of gotten them but that’s also a German platform not french makes more sense then a french platform but again it should be reverted

some rumors say from the RU stream that the Autoloader reads QR codes on the Ammo and therefore only the french one can be used

I hate to say it, but that can been done opened…like awhile ago.

When a vehicle is doing bad but it can’t be lowered then it gets a better shell.

You don’t think a German Leopard 2A7V hull in German service is German enough to get a German shell only because it has a French turret that is fully compatible with German ammunition…?

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-1 Only if other Leclercs get it, and I don’t think it’s necessary ATP. Only with further BR decompression.

Otherwise we’ll have a situation where the EMBT, with the Leclerc S2 turret but a vastly improved hull and an improved round, sits at the same BR as the standard Leclerc S2. Just unbalanced. The EMBT is already better than the S2 just via the hull.

In my opinion, Leclercs should just be 12.0-12.3. At their current state, they are hardly 12.7 material.

It makes sense that the much more modern, advanced and heavier EMBT would be the pinnacle of the French tree as of now.

Leclerc S.XXI could get SHARD, though!

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It’s not a 2a7V chassis in the first place it’s a 2a7+
And fully compatible isn’t proven to work with longer rounds like dm53 yet

Errr…


Two different cannons means two different shots. Different breach, different loading mechanism means different shell. Due to it being a Leclerc turret, it should be a OFL 120 F1

🥀 Exactly the point I’m trying to make

Leclerc’s gun is fully compliant with the NATO STANAG 4385 standard for 120×570mm smoothbore ammunition, so it certainly should be able to fire it! After all, standardization was always important for NATO tanks.

Suggesting that “different cannons means different shots” simply displays a lack of familiarization with NATO’s standardization policies.

And I disagree with that especially in the case of 122

Yet APFSDS is OUTRAGEOUS for the BMPT and BMD?

Another topic

Same principle

There are other considerations, in no case is this a topic for BMPTs or BMDs though

None is arguing that it’s not capable it’s the fact of the Autoloader and other factors. It’s not even a tank in live server yet

And would there be any gameplay wise difference or is this only for the sake of pedantry?

I know, Dev Server seasons are exactly the time to talk about these matters.

In theory it should be a lot better armour. 122 levels or better

Or like wait until it comes to live game and see how it preforms lmao

Everyone here knows exactly how OFL F1 performs… the whole point of this is to prevent another 12.7 that’s meant to be the pinnacle of their lines to come to the game with 11.7-level penetration.