I’ll just say this: the US is a balanced nation, quite good to be honest. It doesn’t stand out, but it’s not bad. However, it is a nerfed nation, the Abrams armor is not the real one (I am aware that tanks like the Leopard 2A4 do not have their real armor either), the M60 and the first Abrams model used the M900 ammunition,ammunition that of course is not in the game (only in the m1128 stryker and in the ipm1, but both the first abrams and the m60 used the m900, which is not represented in the game), While some nations have helicopters with high-speed ATGMs like the Ka50 or others have Spike missiles, the United States, however, does not have the fire and forget hellfires that are used irl, While Germany has the Leopard 2A7 and Russia the T90M, which are the most recent MBT models of these nations, the United States does not have the Abrams Sep V3, there is a great lack of real used anti-aircraft weapons in the american tech tree like the m-shorad,the avenger mkI-mkII or the patriot,When they receive some type of self-produced jet like the F18, they are never given the best version, however, other countries are given modified versions of the same that are better, while some nations like china or russia have actual jets eeuu doesnt have the super hornet,the f22-35 or even actual versions of the f18, On top of that, if that weren’t enough, the current AGM Mavericks aren’t added for the planes, nor are the current AIM120s, and you can’t even use the AIM9X on your F18.The MBT70 penetration parameters are false, the HSTVL lacks the Delta6 ammunition, I could go on and on, but I think this is the most important things, so yeah it’s a nerfed nation. I’m aware that there are more nerfed nations, but I think the US takes the first place.
I think the older M68 guns on the M60’s couldnt handle the M900, so I’m pretty sure its correct that the M60A3 TTS doesn’t have it
Exactly the model you just mentioned was the one that used the M900 ammunition, the M60A3, the others m60 did not.
well. that’s just basic of warthuder
Including the TTS, I don’t think it got the improved M68
Nor is the armour on the CR2, Ariete, Leclerc, Merkava, etc.
Ammo is always a balancing thing. Many tanks should have better shells than they currently have,
Nor do 50% of nations at top tier and the US Apache is stronger than all the other apaches at top tier wihtout FnF.
Yes, that is the same for most nations at top tier.
You just got the SLAMRAAM. Multiple nations did not get anything with 2x Nations without any top tier SPAA (3 if you include Israel in that too). This includes the UK with only a weaker version of the ADATS the US was also stuck with until last major update.
Patriot is way too OP at the moment.
US has the best version of multiple aircraft, like the F-16.
F-22 and F-35 would be too OP. Not coming anytime soon. F-18E maybe later this year, though 3x Nations dont really have true counters to the F-15E yet. So those should be first to get something.
AGM-65s whilst outclassed these days compared to KH-38MT and AASM, are still better than the Brimstones on the Typhoons.
No one can use Gen 5 IR on their top tier aircraft. All will get them at the same time.
Loadouts are always a balancing decision. Multiple nations though still do not have something even half as good as the HSTVL.
What?
I know there are multple nations in a much a worse state but the I think the US is actually the worst?
In terms of purely GRB. US is currently Rank 3. Just behind Germany and Sweden and potentially tied with the USSR.
But at least 6 out of 10 nations are weaker than the US at the moment
1 example at top tier, the F-14 doesn’t really count since it’s US exclusive
My main issue is that I put the lack of fire and forget hellfires and the lack of the m900 for the abrams and the m60a3 in the problem report and they just responded with a not a bug,Along with a message telling me to provide data, but are you serious? If I show official pages of experts on military matters or video documentaries, it’s useless.But if someone, already tired, shows the official technical sheets, Gaijin will not only report you, but they will not even add it, they are totally stubborn no matter how much data they are given,for them, their game is realistic. My opinion is that War Thunder stops being realistic after the Second World War br, since the official data on military vehicles is almost never known to the 100%,especially prototype tanks, most of which have their characteristics invented by gaijin, I guess at the end of the day it’s just a game xD
So?
F-15C is only weaker to the F-15J(M) because Japan slapped their native missiles on it. (and they cant even take AAM-4 on all pylons)
F-15E is only marginally weaker than the F-15I because Israel put more CMs on it.
Though neither is a major buff.
Finnish F-18C does get a load more CMs thanks to 8x BOL, but given Sweden also dont get a true 14.0 like their native built Gripen NG / E yet, its a small concellation prize.
AV-8B+ is identical in the Italian TT.
So we agree on something, War Thunder is not realistic and many of its “balances” are not well done, for example as I said about the Abrams, it is the only MBT in 10.7 with a caliber of 105mm,Furthermore, it doesn’t penetrate even 400mm while the rest of the 10.7 MBTs do. This would be fixed by adding the M900 ammunition to balance it. I am also aware that the UK has not received any anti-aircraft in this update and in fact, England also needs more anti-aircraft, the curious thing is that neither the XM, nor the Adats nor the Slammraam they did not pass the testing phase and were never used in the US Army. However, they have recently improved the Pantsir radar, which is Russia’s current anti-aircraft radar. Why not give the rest of the current anti-aircraft nations the same?
Swiss F-18 premium with better engines, better radar, more countermeasures.
If you want to talk about the F-15’s, both the C and E should be getting BOL which was put by the US
The F-16C should get PIDS+ for MAWS and more CM and Scorpion HMD with HMD IFF
It trades that performance for great mobility and protection. Though that round is still able to one shot a “11.7” CR2 almost anywhere.
Let alone anything at a lower BR. Sure you have to aim well, but thats a given for most top tier tanks.
I also play Germany and Russia and I have noticed a big difference, neither the Leopard 2a4 nor the T80 have as many problems to eliminate almost anywhere or at least penetrate the rest of the tanks at its br,The Abrams, however, requires you to know weak points, which sometimes are not visible, or a fuel canister completely stops your projectile. The M900 ammunition in the Abrams has been used at it should be added,Penetrating less than 400mm in 10.7 is quite frustrating as it gives you a disadvantage against other tanks in direct combat, however as you say you have mobility, very true, with that mobility that you have in the abrams you can flank the enemy,the only problem is that there are tanks like the Japanese Type 90, which has the same BR, a 120mm cannon, an autoloader, almost the same mobility, almost the same armor and much greater penetration.
I think we can all directly agree that War Thunder is BS, there are games that sometimes reproduce better realism like Arma
Thats on par with being export heavy nation.
and lot of times, other countries recieving better variants of US fighter is due to the fact that said countries decided to upgrade theirs whilist US got entirely new plane instead (best demonstrated on F-104s).
so? germany didnt get EFT till december last year and had to rely on Phantom, albeit heavily upgraded, or MiG-29G which sits at the same BR as Su-27 or Su-33.
They will come in time.
no nation in game has their respective next gen IR missiles aviable to their planes. 9Ms and 120A/B/Cs are all shared between BLUFOR nations.
This excuse does not work in the case of the F-15, 16, and 18
So we come back to the same thing, War Thunder represents realism badly, very, very badly and in many cases it doesn’t have a good balance, there are people who ask for disproportionate things like the Tiger 1 in a lower br,However, I think what I’m saying makes a lot of sense and gaijin really doesn’t listen to the community unless there is a total revolution from everyone like what happened the time when they worsened the game’s economy
Wait until he hears that the Tigers have more HP than in real life, that the Carousel autoloader has been nerfed a lot in-game (the T-80’s reload is 4 seconds in real life), the T-90M arena, 1942 German tanks fighting 1939 tanks, inaccurate Christie suspension, lack of armor cracking (a nerf mainly affecting the USSR since they use 85, 100, 122, 125, and 152 mm guns), the Germans having pay-to-win options against USSR tanks (like the T-34 and KV-1), and many other injustices in the game slight nerfs, buffs, or outright favoritism (cough cough Germany). It’s not just the Y that’s been nerfed; all nations have been “wronged” in some way.
You know what? I agree with you and regarding the data you said, I know it all. I’m a big fan of military engineering and I have several books that give me a lot of information and u know what? You are right,back to the same thing, War Thunder does not represent reality well
No. US has 90, 105, 120, and 155 guns so it is not mainly affecting the USSR