2nd best vs planes. But it one of the worst spaa vs helicopters so overall it worse than ItO.
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Meanwhile Italy with the Otomatic:
2nd best vs planes. But it one of the worst spaa vs helicopters so overall it worse than ItO
It’s also fine against helicopters, I haven’t come across a single issue with helicopter engagements and don’t forget the fact it can destroy fire and forget missiles like the Pantsir which is a huge plus.
The ItO is good but it’s nothing near the performance of the Pantsir and Tor-M1
Remove the APFSDS limit on the OTOMATIC and move it down to like 11.0 or 10.7 and it would be amazing, literally a worse 2S38 by BR as of right now.
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They also nerfed its proxy shell.
It used to behave like a tiny nuke going off next to a plane now you need 3+ to kill a single plane and more for a heli.
This thing is simply trash for a top tier aa.
Its only kinda good for helis because of the irst and the proxy shells but if a cas pilot taps any key to turn, your shell simply never connects.
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adats still missing its stabilizer
It has a very slow missile for intercepting helicopters due the vertical launch. A 5km range it will fly about 2 seconds longer than the mim146, which is already pretty slow for intercepting helicopters. With this amount of missile flight time the helicopter always has enough time to hide back behind the terrain. I even die from ottomatic more often than from tor-m1 on a helicopter.
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It has a very slow missile for intercepting helicopters due the vertical launch
The vertical launch of the Tor-M1 is like 0.5 seconds, that’s within human error and wouldn’t change anything from gameplay.
It absolutely changes gameplay
I agree on the part about Eastern SPAA being unbalanced, but eastern CAS is not that great. Good, yes, but not the greatest. I personally just bring the f4f ICE or Mig29G into toptier matches and use that as SPAA by spamming aim120 at unsupecting people, and if i have enough SP i take the mavericks as well
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Perhaps if the aircraft is incredibly close up yes but not in reality, I’ve probably had a issue with it once whilst playing the Tor-M1.
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“inferior cas” hahahhahahhahahhahhahhahahhahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahhahhahahhahahhahhahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhah
Yeah that why i spawn fighter with AMRAAM fast as possible to kill those Russians CAS love seeing panic SU-25 pilot when to trying hard to survive AMRAAM and die
TPS Hydra is not a Russian main, so you must be talking about yourself.
Not sure why you think your opinions are invalidated just cause you love the Russian tech tree so much.
Not everyone can be a 10 tech tree player like myself. It took me 5 years of semi-active play to get to this point.
Any bro. I dont really care just give the US MORE spaa
Already confirmed being developed.
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Yes, the introduction of FOX-3 negates planes like the SU-25SM3 and any supersonic AGM lobbers out of the sky but Western SPAA is still severely lacking.
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I’ve hit them with 2-3 m830a1 and it just pissed them off. And as far as that cannon is concerned is one of if not the most accurate and deadly 30mm cannons available on any all helis in game. Pair that with that APDS rounds and it makes short work of most tanks. And yes, I’ve seen my whole team lighting them up with MGs and it still kept going about it’s business. Hell I have video of me hitting one 4 times with ADATS and didn’t kill it. Let’s not pretend that helicopter is in a league of is own in PVP. Luckily it at least can’t keep up with the Apaches in PVE.
US has the best cas at basically every br.
I dont know why people look at a stat card for a missile and ignore everything else.
I’d disagree, US options aren’t the best but they are quite flexible.
The biggest problem that leads to said perspective is that, they don’t have the unique airframe configurations (B-57G, F-4D, F-16C-25, F-4G etc.) or ordnance that they could have access to. and so effectively have at best solid baseline of performance across the board but nothing that really stands out.
Also the fact that basically all Strike airframes are missing key stores like, Anti-Radiation Missiles, various guided ordnance (Submunition dispensers / Cluster bombs) and alternate warheads for the modular guidance kits / rockets, doesn’t help.
If you break things down in a 1:1 store by store approach, US options are worse than their counterparts (AGM-65 / AGM-12C / GBU-8 vs Kh-29T / Kh-25L / KAB-500Kr) but that is supposedly made up by the quantity available, but then downloaded stores carriage isn’t a thing so there is no ability to derive an SP cost vs stowed kills advantage practically by design.
For example;
- Mavericks are modeled erroneously due to game balance(cuts both ways the variants with the Electro-Optical seeker overperform significantly (3~4x what they should), and can lock onto the ground in error).
- Targeting pods are only available outside a single premium above 12.0.
- Large caliber rockets don’t have access to their alternate HE / HEAT warheads.
- FAE aren’t implemented.
- various Paveway I ordnance like the; GBU-1, -9 , -11, etc. are not implemented.
- TCS / TISEO / ARBS / AAA-4 / AAS-15 don’t even approach what they should be capable of.
- The AGM-114L would be unfair since Russia has yet to figure out that multi-spectral smoke is a thing.
- A2G radar modes can’t be rolled out to more airframes for reasons.
- IRCM / ECM pods aren’t implemented.
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