Early APFSDS

True. And considering many of the 8.0 MBTs for other nations are not even stabilised at all (USA/Germany/Israel, etc), the Mk. 1 is already in contention for best 8.0 MBT just from that alone, haha.

My favourite 8.0 is the WZ305, but that’s a whole other topic.

This wouldn’t be good for reasons mentioned above.

You understand that APFSDS found on tanks such as T-55A is just a reskinned APDS round, right ?

nah, lets go with what he says. Object279 at 7.7, sounds good to me.


Seriously, though. APFSDS isn’t some wonder weapon. On the TO-55 I love that it has APDS. The Type-69 in the Chinese tree (also 8.0) has a useless ‘APDS-FS’ round with hardly any pen:

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And only HEAT-FS to back it up. I would trade both of those rounds for a HE/APDS combo.

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Same thing yada yada.

I said “with exceptions ofc”

I feel that you brought it up just to brag that you the object 279

APFSDS lowers the armor effectiveness of a tank, no?

No, I’m pointing out your stupid logic. Do better.

Makes no sense.

Type 69 gets my vote, fully stabbed, some armour, LRF and first gen APFSDS.

I haven’t played the Vickers but it seems strong.

Mm, might be my personal biases, I prefer a snappy reload over a LRF for most maps.
The 5 second reload is a hell of a drug