Yeah, because they are Dutch planes.
Dutch planes not only captured by the Germans, used by the Germans, build by the Germans.
Not French planes, not captured by the French, not used by the French, not build by the French.
It’s honestly not that bad, I spaded the British phantom when the R27ER was added and the F-16 was already flying about.
There’s more to worry about now than just F-16s as well.
Having the Bene"lux" Air in France is fitting, though I wonder if some of the german captured ww2 planes such as the G1 be added as some sort of event/ premium vehicle.
Having Benelux independent would have been cool, but then the same arguments can be said by some players, this is just another nation full of copy-paste.
It’s nice that The dutch and the Belgians can seek revenge against those BF109’s.
There is shared history, militarily and culturally.
Interestingly, you look for a “logical perspective” when trying to group Benelux with France. However, you look for a “game perspective” when evaluating what Germany needs and doesn’t need. As well as should and shouldn’t get. Your thinking isn’t rational is just what suits your desires most. You’re evaluating the nations on different levels and then comparing their needs on the same level.
Thank you, I couldn’t lay my finger exactly on why this frustrated me so much, now I understand. This makes so much sense!
There is shared history, militarily and culturally.
More with Germany than with France.
Interestingly, you look for a “logical perspective” when trying to group Benelux with France.
There isn’t one.
However, you look for a “game perspective” when evaluating what Germany needs and doesn’t need.
Just a misrepresentation of what I said and conveniently leaving things out.
Both from a logical as from a gameplay perspective it doesn’t make sense for Germany to not get these things, in neither perspective does France make sense.
Your thinking isn’t rational is just what suits your desires most. You’re evaluating the nations on different levels and then comparing their needs on the same level.
You’re just taking a single post out of context and pretend that is everything I said.
I evaluated both nations on the real life reasoning for getting these nations and their ties, and from a gameplay perspective what nation could make claim to this.
Neither of them explains why France is getting them.
A misrepresentation of what you said, using almost verbatim your exact words?
Okay.
no
Yeah, when you leave out every other post.
Lmao, okay bud.
My response sums up your perspective across your posts quite succinctly.
Clearly it doesn’t if you come to a conclusion like that.
I’ve discussed the logical perspective for tree being added to Germany vs France and the gameplay perspective of it being added to Germany vs France.
you look for a “game perspective” when evaluating what Germany needs and doesn’t need
You pretending I did not go over the current and historical relationship between the Dutch and the Germans and address the close military ties between their ground and naval forces that would justify it as a subtree and only considered the gameplay aspect is outright false and disingenuous.
Only recently the Netherlands and Germany started working together.
Having the Benelux with France is good as it can fill gaps. The German Tree is pretty solid with Argentinian Vehicles such as the TAM
I’m still waiting for Thailand to be added to Japan to fill gaps they have.
Funny but ok,… Netherland was under french flag many times.
You didn’t watched everything, he just wanted an F-16 for Germany.
lmfao, isnt the dutch airforce independent from the german “integration” so him getting the f-16’s wont make sense
Yeah, the closest the Dutch air force comes to an ‘integration’ is the cooperation between the Belgian air force, the Luxembourg one and them for the BENELUX QRA. (Notably no Germans in this, outside from some german-speaking Belgians)
What cooperation… a shared airspace since the 1980s where the Dutch F-16s that operated from the Combined Air Operations Centre in Germany took care of the Benelux airspace until like 1-2 months ago when the F-35s replaced the F-16s and started operating from the Netherlands??
F-35s which Germany also has and will surely help with working together in the future in various ways, F-35s which France won’t have.
Then you can also also bring up Division Schnelle Kräfte (DSK), a rapid intervention unit where the Dutch and Germans work together… the The Dutch Airmobile Brigade is merged with the German units to improve the use of personnel, equipment, training, education and cost saving.
You can bring up BeNeSam perhaps, which is Belgian-Dutch naval cooperation, a similar type of naval cooperation that also includes Germany as previously mentioned which is also placed under Dutch command.
None of this includes France at any point by the way.
At best you can bring up the European Air Transport Command, a command center based in the Netherlands that manages military logistics by controlling over 200 planes from various countries in a shared operation with the Benelux, Germany, France, Italy and Spain as the one thing that includes France in some military capacity, but Germany is also included in that
The sooner you realize it’s not about making sense the better lol
Considering I brought up most of these cooperations already in my arguments when I was talking to you, leads me to think you didn’t read any of it…