Yes, a captured one used as a trainer, your point being?
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I don’t see French markings on them, plus the Germans finished building another dozen or so Wasps for the Luftwaffe… chances are Germany had more use of the Fokkers than the Dutch did… so why they shouldn’t be in the German tree but in the French tree is a weird stance.
The phantom gets Li missiles, you’re behind on the news.
It’s still a Phantom at top tier.
Yeah, because they are Dutch planes.
It’s honestly not that bad, I spaded the British phantom when the R27ER was added and the F-16 was already flying about. The phantom is not that bad of a plane. You still have 8 missiles and a decent enough radarset.
ARH missiles should have been added to all planes at the same time,.not create a big capability gap between nations so the German players can enjoy an advantage because they can use them first, smh.
Yeah, because they are Dutch planes.
Dutch planes not only captured by the Germans, used by the Germans, build by the Germans.
Not French planes, not captured by the French, not used by the French, not build by the French.
It’s honestly not that bad, I spaded the British phantom when the R27ER was added and the F-16 was already flying about.
There’s more to worry about now than just F-16s as well.
Having the Bene"lux" Air in France is fitting, though I wonder if some of the german captured ww2 planes such as the G1 be added as some sort of event/ premium vehicle.
Having Benelux independent would have been cool, but then the same arguments can be said by some players, this is just another nation full of copy-paste.
It’s nice that The dutch and the Belgians can seek revenge against those BF109’s.
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There is shared history, militarily and culturally.
Interestingly, you look for a “logical perspective” when trying to group Benelux with France. However, you look for a “game perspective” when evaluating what Germany needs and doesn’t need. As well as should and shouldn’t get. Your thinking isn’t rational is just what suits your desires most. You’re evaluating the nations on different levels and then comparing their needs on the same level.
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Thank you, I couldn’t lay my finger exactly on why this frustrated me so much, now I understand. This makes so much sense!
There is shared history, militarily and culturally.
More with Germany than with France.
Interestingly, you look for a “logical perspective” when trying to group Benelux with France.
There isn’t one.
However, you look for a “game perspective” when evaluating what Germany needs and doesn’t need.
Just a misrepresentation of what I said and conveniently leaving things out.
Both from a logical as from a gameplay perspective it doesn’t make sense for Germany to not get these things, in neither perspective does France make sense.
Your thinking isn’t rational is just what suits your desires most. You’re evaluating the nations on different levels and then comparing their needs on the same level.
You’re just taking a single post out of context and pretend that is everything I said.
I evaluated both nations on the real life reasoning for getting these nations and their ties, and from a gameplay perspective what nation could make claim to this.
Neither of them explains why France is getting them.
A misrepresentation of what you said, using almost verbatim your exact words?
Okay.
no
Yeah, when you leave out every other post.
Lmao, okay bud.
My response sums up your perspective across your posts quite succinctly.
Clearly it doesn’t if you come to a conclusion like that.
I’ve discussed the logical perspective for tree being added to Germany vs France and the gameplay perspective of it being added to Germany vs France.
you look for a “game perspective” when evaluating what Germany needs and doesn’t need
You pretending I did not go over the current and historical relationship between the Dutch and the Germans and address the close military ties between their ground and naval forces that would justify it as a subtree and only considered the gameplay aspect is outright false and disingenuous.
- The french tech tree, from a gameplay perspective, is in need of a large influx of planes to fill line-ups and gaps.
- The french were at least nominal allies to the Dutch and the BeNeLux throughout the whole duration of this game (1912-2025).
- The Germans were enemies of the Dutch empire and fought against them in the 1940s and created hostilities in the 1930s.
- From a gameplay perspective Germany only needs top top tier stuff (1-3 vehicles) to fill their line-ups and gaps.
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Only recently the Netherlands and Germany started working together.
Having the Benelux with France is good as it can fill gaps. The German Tree is pretty solid with Argentinian Vehicles such as the TAM
I’m still waiting for Thailand to be added to Japan to fill gaps they have.
Funny but ok,… Netherland was under french flag many times.
You didn’t watched everything, he just wanted an F-16 for Germany.
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lmfao, isnt the dutch airforce independent from the german “integration” so him getting the f-16’s wont make sense