Dutch and Belgian Aircraft are Joining the French Tree!

i usually grind germany but, off topic i love bread with gouda cheese

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It is indeed pretty good!

About a year ago, 90% of the playerbase was still just playing the Big Three. It’s worth asking why that happens and what negative impact it has on the game (imho more than people realise).

You think people are foaming at the mouth now to go and play France because they copy pasted yet another Spitfire and yet another F-104 and yet another Mirage and yet another F-16 into the tree?

If I was playing France I’d just be annoyed to be forced to grind the same vehicles again and again and again, it’s why I no longer play certain trees because I’m sick and tired of grinding through Shermans, T-34s and T-series.

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Is it possible to do something similar for the German aviation branch, for example, aircraft from damn Argentina, which was added to the research branch 4 years ago? Or are only other countries allowed to add equipment from other countries and associations, without any logic?

i believe so this issue remains most of usa ground rb used french technical to add a sherman into french turret is not a copy paste, i believe people were buying real shermans then discarding american turret and put newly designed french turret to fit onto sherman with newly mounted ammunition…

If I was playing France I’d just be annoyed to be forced to grind the same vehicles again and again and again, it’s why I no longer play certain trees because I’m sick and tired of grinding through Shermans, T-34s and T-series.

Poor german…

Oh well 😅

Forced to? Are you kidding?

Yeah, if you want to progress the tree…

What I think is that players who start the tree now will have less of a difficult time grinding through it. Just like Hungary made grinding Italy much nicer.

The repetitiveness can be a bit boring, but at the same time, you’re never forced to actually play them. You can research them and then leave them unspades and unplayed forever in order to focus on what you like instead.

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Made a little meme to summarize this update lmao
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When will germany actually get something decent for top tier air?(never i know)

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I promise, we’re not all like this.

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Personnally, this subtree may help french air tree to fill more plane for the BR 4.0-7.0 where there aren’t many. But for the jets I find it mostly useless even if I can see the use of the Hunter F.6 and Mirage 5BA for the BR 9.3-10.0 but for the other aren’t needed at all.

West German and East German vehicles that would have been shooting at each other are in the same tree, Italy has Warsaw Pact vehicles, so that’s neither here nor there.

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What I think is that players who start the tree now will have less of a difficult time grinding through it. Just like Hungary made grinding Italy much nicer.

There are just a bunch more things to grind through, extending the grind.
I don’t see how Hungary made it much nicer either, the ground has no added value.

The repetitiveness can be a bit boring, but at the same time, you’re never forced to actually play them. You can research them and then leave them unspades and unplayed forever in order to focus on what you like instead.

You’re still spending hours/days/weeks unlocking something you do not want to have, which is the whole carrot on the stick system this game hinges on, except there’s no carrot but just moldy leftovers from last week on a stick, but you have to get it, and then spend a lot of silver on it just to get the things you do actually want.

When they design one? It shouldn’t be too long before they get their own subtree or trial / Brochure variants to fix the issue.

The Typhoon is still some ways off though.

I never understood this logic.

If your objective is getting to top tier as fast as possible, just play Japan, done.

And yet most of the players in the game, an overwhelming majority in fact, play the Big Three, the most populated trees and therefore the ones with the longer grind. So what, are they all masochists?

I think you’re just overlooking the fact that having nice fat lineups and many smaller research steps is actually nicer most of the time. People don’t seem to enjoy lineups with two or three vehicles with a big void above and below.

That has to be acknowledged for the conversation to even make sense. It is inarguable that the distribution of the player base is extremely uneven.

I don’t know man. I play WT because I have fun. If I wasn’t having fun to the point that I compared it with eating mold, I’d stop playing and do something else… It’s fine to not like something anymore.

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Maybe I’m wrong but they ad the line as a separated column so if you don’t want to play Benelux tree you can skip it.

Actually, and sorry if I was rude, I have unlocked and almost spades ALL the french TT (Air, ground and sea) and I’m happy with this sub-tree bringing F-16 experience without grinding other trees (I’m around rank III on each nation so lower rank aircraft aren’t a trouble)

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There’s no fun in the game if you just grind through everything. I suggest playing the vehicles you unlock. If you have already played them in another tech tree, then that’s on you. Most people in this game stick to one or two nations at most. You would need Hundreds or Thousands of hours in this game to completely get several nations to top tier (tanks AND planes). There’s no enjoyment if a tech tree only has little planes to choose from.

That seems very harsh. If you don’t like the play experience you can always stop. BeNeLux is a sub tree, hopefully it will be separated enough so you won’t have to research it to reach rank VIII, but if you need 5 planes per rank researched you might get into a problem at rank VII.

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I never understood this logic.

If your objective is getting to top tier as fast as possible, just play Japan, done.

I don’t think if that’s even true as they just increase RP requirements to extend the grind or whatever.

I think you’re just overlooking the fact that having nice fat lineups and many smaller research steps is actually nicer most of the time. People don’t seem to enjoy lineups with two or three vehicles with a big void above and below.

That has to be acknowledged for the conversation to even make sense. It is inarguable that the distribution of the player base is extremely uneven.

Which half the time isn’t even addressed with new vehicles when they’re placed at illogical and useless BRs, these latest BR changes with separation of air and ground for planes has a ton of planes go to 10.7, an almost entirely barren BR range with maybe 5-6 vehicles placed at this BR, or in other words literally has no impact to place a formerly US 11.0 jet at 10.7 when there is no lineup.

The problem with minor nations is how they’re poorly managed, and how snails stupid calculations always screw them over by not considering the lower player numbers and above average skill level, and then they lie to your face about it and say that they do consider it.

Playing Japan sucks because of the lineup options as you say, but a lot of those are consequences from poor balancing at the hands of snail, making half the tree just overtiered and you’re playing vehicles that would be a full BR lower in a different tree, so you have to work twice as hard for the same outcome… which is really what sucks about minor nations… then getting a bunch of boring copy paste vehicles doesn’t resolve that and just makes them look even more boring to new players because literally nobody gets excited about that.

I don’t know man. I play WT because I have fun. If I wasn’t having fun to the point that I compared it with eating mold, I’d stop playing and do something else… It’s fine to not like something anymore.

Yeah, let’s pretend people aren’t trying to progress a tech tree and that isn’t in fact the design of the game.

Actually, and sorry if I was rude, I have unlocked and almost spades ALL the french TT (Air, ground and sea) and I’m happy with this sub-tree bringing F-16 experience without grinding other trees (I’m around rank III on each nation so lower rank aircraft aren’t a trouble)

Yeah but you’re already playing the tree, it’s a lot different if you weren’t already and have to grind through a whole tree to get an F-16 when you would have that already in a different tree and thus it’s not an incentive.