All of the above.
The can is already open. Again, when they changed the 341 the whole BR bracked where you could fight it was unplayable because everyone and their mother was spamming the thing.
You contradict yourself by saying it “should be left untouched”, but seem perfectly okay with Gaijin adding an ammo belt for being more accurate. For what reason? If the tank never existed as is and warranted a removal, there’s absolutely NO reason to give it a different ammo type. You either remove the vehicle and be done with it, or you change things like its a regular old vehicle in the game. Can’t have both.
The vehicle was removed because no unique part of it was actually built, only a mockup turret was put on a normal Panther hull. So with that it’s not enough to count as unfinished prototype like the Yak-141 (which would need parts built that are unique to it, or the Panther hull modified for example).
But just because it doesn’t meet the general limits of what Gaijin want in the game anymore doesn’t mean it wasn’t real. It’s still a very real project, so if something isn’t accurate to the real project it can be bug reported and fixed.
If they just made it up I could see why they shouldn’t touch it anymore, but as soon as there’s real history behind it I think they should still try their best to get it right. Especially when other games tend to change paper projects as they see fit leading to unfortunate misconceptions about them.
Well, that was obvious
Untouched as unobtainaium not making the tank more real again like the 341
Please let me known when we have a tank with the same guns as flakpanzer 341… Yes they should make it more realistic even if you can’t get it
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We’ve commented 1344 times but we haven’t got any kind of feedback
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“Sukhoi to US and F-5 to USSR”
“Thailand and BeNeLux now brings X plane”
“Our players loved our additions” (10 nuke farmers needing more vehicles for the lineup)
Type of “feedback” we’ll recieve
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Yep
Still scratching my head as to what capability gap most everything in the BeNeLux subtree actually addresses that can’t be domestically addressed by French designs aside from (so far in the game) AH-64E.
i anit no nuke farmer and i want more vehicles for my line ups because i do not leave after 1 death
still waiting on MKI i don’t care what others think
random question, are you Greek?
Is that atleast in low tier both dutch and belgian designs should have been added, but we just recieved the Fokker Mercury at launch, fokker D-XXI came later and Fokker D-XXIII came later.
And there are many aircraft left from fokker, even production ones like the Fokker T.V, Fokker T.IX, Fokker T.VIII (low tier torpedo bomber which France doesn’t see in the TT until 3.3), Fokker S.14.1 «L-1» Machtrainer (an early jet), etc and piles of etc.
And I didn’t mention Koolhoven yet, with stuff like the Koolhoven F.K.58
SABCA comes with Belgium, aircraft like the multiple Italian license built bombers and even multi-role like the SABCA S.47, or simply Alfred Renard with monoplane fullmetal prototypes like Renard R.36 and family or simply the R.31 which did see serious production runs.
This is only the air tree mind you, the launch and current state of BeNeLux is a complete shame, a launch could be justified but the current state? hell no.
Even if BVV_d said “those ranks are filled up” on the Q&A you can still see lackluster low tiers
France is one of those, just carry on with Moranes and Fokkers and some h-75.
WT is an incredible discovery tool, there’s no reason to “deny” more obscure aircraft.
how many of you knew about the VB.10s before WT? What about the VM-23 or DB-LK?
You could add piles upon piles of these for tech tree, but instead is just “export aircraft number 48”, Sub trees don’t even come with skins to unlock, Thailand used Ki-27s and Ki-21s but you don’t know because the only WW2 aircraft they have is a SB2C copypasted from France, even down to the literal roundel on the name.
Sub-Trees are currently just rushed explanations for Warsaw stuff on NATO, NATO stuff on Warsaw, Axis stuff on allies and Allied stuff on axis.
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Would be nice to get Thai camos for these. The Ki-43-II too, there’s already a marketplace camo for that, but on the wrong variant.
They could also add some other WWII aircraft from Thailand, their Hawk 75N or NA-68, or even some Thai operated Japanese aircraft we just don’t have yet like the Ki-30 or Ki-55. They could also add the Thai Toyo FD-25B Defender, which is currently the only post-WWII combat aircraft exported by Japan.
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True. I never knew 50 and 200 kg tnt missiles can just vanish entirely after hitting tank. Wouldnt discover this if I never played war thunder.
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Spoiler
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But currently they will only look at Thailand in order to make some update fodder.
It is a complete shame, specially since Thailand can fill those CAS support role Japan lacks so much, but currently is just some bum jet with secondary weapons it never saw.
You can ask that about every sub-tree but Sweden’s and Japan’s ones, as they are the only nations to need them. Any other fill one or maybe two gaps the host couldn’t fill, and that 99% of the time is with a “C&P” vehicle. (Some would fill more if they had additions on that side of the tree)
There is the other side to sub-nations: Representation. That is the entire point of unneeded sub-nations.
Because despite all of the issues with the system(like lack of space), it’s the one upside, as you see additions from the nation(s), and it’s all in one place, allowing you to make line-ups for the nation.
As being a sub-tree guarantees the nation(s) get additions in one place, which is much better than being a homeless nation. (No nation should be subject to having a vehicle covered in symbolism to another nation be called the prefect premium, just due to the family it’s from (and the only connection to the nation it’s premium for))
I have called War Thunder the best and worst representation of nations before because it’s true. As in military games, this has some of the only representations of unique/historical vehicles of the operator, which isn’t one of 3 RTS or a map game. As any other game is the same 3-5 nations you see all the time. But at the same time, unless the nation has a home, it can see key vehicles sold to it at $100 each all in different trees unable to be used together, or worse, be added in other unobtanium ways never to join them if they do get a home.
still goated it grinded me the rank 1-3 in the air tree
Shouldn’t their be a 38 cm Sturmmörser/Ersatz M10/losat in the tech tree or even a premium or squadron vehicle
Yeah I’m pretty sure they complain about the Senrai Maidens vehicles or the other packs that have camo nets as they literally only have a camo that’s different than both tech tree or premium versions if you gonna sell camos than sell camos by it self don’t resell the vehicle it self as that’s literally greed (only justification I see reselling it would be if the nation could use it to fill a gap or could use a extra vehicle like the m1/m1 kvt) and I don’t think they’re complaining about stuff like jas39Di/f21 , f2a adtw/f2 , A10A early / late , f/a18C early/late, bmpt72, cobra/m4a3e2 , m1/m1 kvt…etc
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Those make gaijin money so no