Taiwan is China, specifically the Republic of China. What they are not is the People’s Republic of China.
So just like Germany has multiple separate German nations (German Empire, Weimar Republic, Nazi Germany, German Democratic Republic, Federal Republic Germany) all in one techtree because they are still Germany even if they are not the same nation, the same is done for China when there is two Chinese nations to represent in the game.
Yes, you’re the one who accused me of making political statements. My original comment never said anything political, just stating facts. Once again, there is nothing inherently political about saying that two adversarial nations should be sharing a tech tree. It makes zero sense and it breaks immersion. In what world would you see a RoC and Chinese tank battalion fighting side by side in the same unit? Not to mention the fact that they both use wildly different tech and designs, and their doctrines vary greatly. As I said before, if you think this is a political thing to say that these two very different militaries shouldn’t be sharing a tech tree considering they are military adversaries that says more about you than me.
no its like if West and East Germany still existed today, but the TT was with the West Germany flag and the eastern Germany flag didn’t even exist in game, the TT isn’t a coalition as gaijin says, its Mainland China with the Democratic China as a subtree
Why? It helps fill low tiers of ground and air until the other nation’s equipment comes into play in majority, and stays there in a smaller quantity after that.
Yes, however the difference comes from the fact that the different German nations were not separate from each other in the same way as China and Taiwan. The German nations came subsequently and in succession of one another, China and Taiwan are not a case of predecessor and successor state. They exist at the same time. Your first line is quite literally my entire point. The PRC and RoC are two very different nations with two very different militaries, it’s almost criminal to lump them together in one tech tree and suddenly call it the “chinese combined tech tree” when it is very clearly just the PRC tech tree with RoC tech mixed in.
Sorry, but all this bickering . . . .
Yeah, the flag issue is a problem I’ll give you that, both should be in game. I don’t even think it’d be an issue to default to PRC as they still have the majority of vehicles, but people should be able to select ROC the same way they can for other nations.
For a nation where both still exist, iirc they are planning a Korean techtree too, with both North and South Korea represented. It will probably default to South Korea, with North Korea being an option that can be selected.
I’m of the belief that tech trees should have gaps and lack of capabilities in order to give them varied experience and gameplay. The French tech tree should not play like the US tech tree, the Russian tree shouldn’t play like China, the Italian tree shouldn’t play like Germany, etc. etc. Different nations have different doctrines and focus on different aspects of their militaries more heavily. That all being said, these are TECH trees. These should be trees representing native technology, the entire premise of bringing in a non-native copy paste vehicle to fill that gap compromises the integrity of that tree’s gameplay experience and that’s why France now has more F-16s than the entire US tree despite France not using them for example.
Two of them were on entirely different sides of the cold war
Brother that is the point. You dont need to fill every gap. Stop defending baseless copy paste slop. MI-28/T-80 has no place in sweden.
no all low tier is still the Democratic China when it was still in power in the mainland
this will be a mistake the TT should be named Korea and have as a flag a natural symbol or 50-50 their flags
One side didn’t produce their own vehicles as they were subsidized almost entirely by the soviet union, making representing the FRG beyond decals nearly impossible
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If you removed ROC equipment from the Chinese tree you’d have Russian tech tree Lite
If you removed ROC equipment from the Chinese tree and replaced it with actual native designs which PRC has plenty of you wouldn’t have the Russian Tech Tree Lite and that’s my entire point. Early tech tree is one thing, they were still a single nation, but continuing to put PRC and ROC stuff in the same tech tree after the split is where I take issue. As I keep saying, they are two separate nations with two very different militaries. They shouldn’t be sharing a tech tree.
Greed.
The answer is greed.
Also slop grind, I guess whales like me are expected to keep shilling out money to have a slightly bearable experience.
But honestly? The grind is slow and agonizing even with premium account and vehicles, so I don’t recommend spending any money it’s just not worth it anymore.
Fix your shit gaijin.
Yeah, at lower tiers they have more, but I remember someone counting all vehicles in game getting to slightly more PRC vehicles total. That could’ve changed since then though, who knows. I’m not going back to count.
I meant the default flag would be South Korea, the techtree name would probably just be Korea.
Split flags are generally nice, but I feel like the UI is a bit small to do it everywhere. For example UK / South Africa / India / Australia split flag would look like a mess at that small scale.
Are the nice things in the room with us?
So then where to put ROC? And no matter where, how would this work with their lower tiers already in another techtree? Do we give the exact same vehicles from the exact same nation to two techtrees, or do we just force ROC players to play two separate halves of their nation in different places?
Yes. If this wasnt the case those copies would be unnecessary or we had some other tt format like joint blufor/redfor where gaps in one country would be filled with other country tech so there is no need to copy same apache 15 times and making it necessary every time you wish to get further in tree. And it would solve current sim issue where ROC fights against NATO for some reason.
the symbol on top of the suggestion will do fine or ChieftainWarrior will definitely have a good idea what to put as a flag putting South Korea as the default nation is wrong