The only issue i can see with those vehicles are the simulator battles and team kill, many newcomers didn’t know how to play the simulator as well, gaijin should focus in a better new comer experience
M18 from Italy, T-54 from Sweden and others (mig 21 bison, f-16 in china, etc)
and why should i grind USA for a Greek plane in the Israeli TT or grind the Swedish TT for a Hungarian plane in the Italian TT ?
in SIM we have IFF, in ground its a problem
Because Greece would NOT be under the Israeli tech tree anymore. FFS when would you GET that.
Because the F-4 is an iconic, unique American plane. Exported from the US to Greece. You know, the USA literally researched and developed that Phantom in real life, and Greek just bought it.
I could be a little more receptive if this was true in practice. But it doesn’t feel like that’s currently the case since it often takes years to get the domestic alternatives, if we even do get them at all (US SPAA for instance).
With that much of a time gap, it’s hard to see the addition of a C+P vehicle as a well conceived stop gap. It just feels like meeting a nation’s “new” vehicles quota so that it can be put on the back burner again for a few update cycles until demand for an actually new vehicle reaches a boiling point. Even if this isn’t the intent in reality, that doesn’t discredit the feelings of the playerbase towards this approach since they’re being left to assume this is all that will come to their favored trees unless they speak out.
I don’t think a written rationale for why a C+P vehicle is added going forward is sufficient to absolve concern. We need a very clear roadmap for when the unique replacement will come.
Also F-4 is an ICONIC GREEK PLANE that still serves in the air force
Man this is how Thai player fighting for Thai VT-4 do you feel it now?
I know. Hence you might want it. I want it to. But you know, The F-4 was researched and developed in the USA, and Greece just bought it from them. Hence we still want it in the game. Under the greek nation tree (NOT ISRAELI)
YES i know i am saying they have to take it its their OWN tank not Chinese, Thai people have bleed in them
Keep fighting for our own nation!! I really want to play Greek Phantom too!
People don’t want copy-and-paste premiums that aren’t even domestic designs, understand? There are two French vehicles on sale right now, and neither of them is actually French, it’s a Leopard and an F-5.
I’d also like to point out that while this isn’t the main problem for everybody, but since it’s the easiest to respond to, you people decided to pick it.
yea and so they became Greek, and with the Upgrade in the 2000" it was with Germany not USA
I just saw this video in my youtube and was like hell yeah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kmrxi2lgDc
They’re still flying.
People, uhmmm, might just not want to play Israel (for reasons) to play this… I also wouldn’t want 300.000RP again since I already have so many Phantoms. Tired of the 200k/300k for yet another phantom. Minor Nation exported copy-paste vehicles should be like foldered, 100k max. (and definitely don´t need to spade it as well again, which is even worse than just researching the vehicle)
they are still in service, the only in the word with Turkey ( i thing they are starting to retire ing them)
Also both versions of the FW189, F20, serbian IAR,…
Then just play other planes in the tech tree.
Maybe I have ties to Greece and/or just really love that Greek Phantom? I play SIM I might want to play with the Greek skinned phantom… Dumb I know.
Same for the Japanese F-4 and F-16AJ. Only F-4 with Aim-7F and 9L at 12.3 (in sim, which is a fun BR). And only F-16 with Sparrows since they messed up my beloved F-16ADF by giving it AMRAAM.
Its ironic that the most interesting F-4 and F-16’s (iconic USA planes) are in the Japanese tree. I’m grinding all of Japan just for these 2 planes… Which are american planes, but not available in the American tree because… reasons? The F-16ADF was specifically developed to carry Sparrows. But the only F-16A we have that carries Sparrows is a fake japanese one? I have no words.
BR should be based on loadouts. Another strong opinion of mine.
Nations with copy paste vehicles are just the base vehicle with another skin and maybe some loadout variation. It’s dumb to grind whole trees for that.
Almost like they removed an although fake but unique and beloved domestic vehicle with no real way of replacing it.
thing i will do with my Greek F-4 when its added https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PF8A11AWTY&t=11s
