Drop the F-5C to 10.0 or back to 10.3 and fix the engines

Sorry, but that doesn’t work both ways.

You dying to F-5 means you’re bad, but me not dying to F-5 does not mean I’m bad.

? no, like i said everyone already knows it was used in vietnam, nobody has ever said it wasnt, but

  1. it already largely fights vietnam era enemies/allies, f4c, mig21, f105 etc are all within 1 BR of it, and f5c vs mig15 would be silly
  2. the things you were complaining about it fighting arent exactly at 10.7 most are at 11.7 so kinda irrelevant, as that just how the BR system works
  3. if you really want the vietnam accurate experience, you get no missiles, no flarepods, and hotter engines and considering how bad you seem to think the f5c is at dogfighting im not sure youd enjoy having to use it as a pure dogfighter at probably 9.7/10.0
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And it would need to be nerfed down to historical levels because it’s STR is overperforming by an insane margin.

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It’s fine where it is, all planes suffer in an uptier and 10.7 is no exception. If we consider the range from 9.7 to 10.7, It’s well balanced already.

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The f5s in wt are overperforming by abt 20% in drag and manouvrability so your bug report is wrong and wont do anything also 10.0 dude are you ass like f5s are. So easy to play its insane

F5s in a uptier are still very broken they slam anything that isnt a f16 if you play it right

Yeah I think it’s relatively fine at 10.7 as long as you ignore it. Used to be a menace at 10.3 but 2 aim9e is near useless at this rating.

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F-5C basically is a free win against any jet it can catch, and even the ones you can’t catch will usually turnfight you anyway due to lack of knowledge. It should not go lower as its already a fairly brainless jet and all it will do is stomp on subsonics and other slow supersonics like itself without much counter.

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I would love to see you try tbh

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I’ve done in many times. The only one I havent done is in us the Mig-21 (I don’t own it), however the Mig-21 easily outturns every other plane on that list so I can’t imagine how it wouldn’t outturn an F-5.

MiG-21 and F-8E are close, but Su-22? A-10? AV-8C???
For real, AV-8C???

Log off for today from the forum and go play a harrier for at least 20 battles, then come back.

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The 21 can out turn F-5C in one circle, but sustained no way,cause it bleeds all speed and dies. Same F-8E tbh.

Yeah i agree, both can cause serious problems to the F-5, but the other 3? There is no way

Harrier no,and 22M4 with speed can energy trap F-5C.

I mean, if we start with the “What if” scenarios everything wins vs anything

Well energy trapping is a way to win that fight. Its not turn fight sure. In turnfight it cant win.

If both start on the same speed and same alt the F-5C wins, period

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Sure, show evidence of you doing this! Heck, 1v1 a forumer!

A-10 has a super small turn radius (you should know this). Su-22 requires you to be mindful of wing sweep, but a fully unswept Su-22 beats an F-5 pretty comfortably. AV-8C can easily take advantage of roll rate + bad energy retention + F-5’s good energy retention to force an overshoot. Mig-21 and F-8E aren’t even close. In a pure 1v1 dogfight, F-5 is pretty much hopeless against either. F-5 can outrun the other three (to a degree) but it can’t even try to outrun a Mig-21 and F-8E.

Source i made it up.

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