24% win rate. It is not being used outside of a team being crushed, so difficult to assess its true potential. After spending far too much time with level 10 players spooning their 5.7-6.7 lineups it is jot surprising.
The Japanese one is odd as it has very little survivability, the Kugel has always been more difficult to pick apart due to the separation of the vehicle with the ball turret.
Russian SPAA never ever make sense.
I won’t say what I think should happen as I really do not know. However having weak lineups and having to bring them up or leaving them with limited backups (6.7-7.0 planes compliment 7.0 lineup if you are going full anti-air) is just something every nation has to deal with.
When you are in that 6.7 German lineup and you get UK on your side I hope you appreciate that amaxing 2 vehicle lineup helping out with 1 Tortoise and a Ratel 20 (in hindsight I wish SA was a seperate nation since no longer getting many missing UK vehicles that they appear to have replaced).
Maybe when these BR changes settle a better place might be found. But the way most seem to approach WT (rush to top asap and yolo all before) allows for vehicles potentital being ruined by too many inexperienced.
24% winrate indicates it’s useless at this point, because at 7.3 you already get the Wiesel and then you get the Gepard, there is no reason for the existence of the Kugel at 7.0 as it cannot go with anything.
And a 0.5 k/d against air also seems to me there is no problem putting it at 6.7 so it can actually be used.
If other nations have to deal with that issue than maybe Gaijin should deal with that issue and not ruin lineups left and right at every opportunity.
The win rate clearly shows the vehicle is used mainly as a last ditch effort in a lost battle. I think you over-egged that part.
Part of the “skill” of this game is coping with lineups. I’ve done it in multiple nations trying to spade vehicles.
6.0-7.0 has far too many level 10s rushing through to top tier due to its much higher population (same as Russia in many cases). Not acknowledging this is just bad manners in my view (US air… cough).
I admit there is a fair amount of wiggling to be done still but we have only just decompressed this zone.
The win rate clearly shows the vehicle is used mainly as a last ditch effort in a lost battle. I think you over-egged that part.
Okay and why would it be used in such a manner? Why would you only use a vehicle as a last ditch effort? Is it because it’s useless and not good for anything else but a cheap late spawn? If it was a good vehicle it wouldn’t be used as a last ditch effort.
Part of the “skill” of this game is coping with lineups.
The skill of opening your wallet and compensating with buying a premium or event vehicle to make a lineup?
What is the skill, there’s an SPAA at 7.0 with nothing at 7.0 and it get replaced at 7.3 if not 8.0.
There is no reason to have it in any lineup just like there is no reason for it to be 7.0 as a WW2 Panzer IV chassis.
Level 10s and bad players? You not noticed in lower BRs that is exactly when players pull out SPAA en masse? I’m sorry but I find your analysis questionable. So all other 6.7-7.3 Germany had a 24% win rate or are these people just spawning teams of only Kugels?
What? Lineups can be just as bare and Premiums/Events have nothing to do with it. Just like many mow will miss the extra 6.3-7.0s they removed.
Skink… deal with it like everyone does? It is just part of the skills of playing WT.
BUT I am not saying it should not alter, just some of the arguments (lineups) are too weak. If its bad at Air and Ground (average user, not watered down by lots of spanners; SPAA is most often not used well) then yes BR changes can happen. I’m just saying let this new setup bed in a little first.
Kugelblitz isn’t good at 7.0. Line up has nothing to do with it. There are equal anti airs at lower brs.
It shouldn’t be downtierred because it has no line up but because it’s not good at 7.0
How many German players queue up at 7.0 just so they can play the Kugelblitz? Genuine question, not rhetorical. I suspect there are way fewer than those who play it at 7.3, but obviously I can’t verify it.
There is no sense having a vehicle gather dust in the hangar. Waste of graphical assets. The only reason to have a vehicle in the game, is so that people will use it.
If the Kugel already perma-plays at 7.3 as I suspect, then put it at 7.3. if you think it’s bad at 7.3, give it back its HVAP belt and call it a day.
jesus we need put that kugel at 6.7 this is just suffering at 7.0 its terrible and to be honest it could be even 6.3 why not is pz 4 chasis with slow top spped and armor wich ćan be penned by 50cals there is no point to be at 7.0 like praga is 1000 times better also is the ZSU 57 equivalent to the kugel i dont thing so ZSU is better at same br. Like i dont know if gaijin forget abou this wehicle or they just hate germany thats mutch so they dont even repond on our callings also i thing they remove mine post so stay strong.
I also noticed Kugel has only like 75mm penetration left. I remember this had been at almost 100mm pen, as it was historical. Now it lost its teeth and still got uptiered to 7.0… Also the Hvap belt is diluted with 1 to 3 with junk ammunition.
While things like the Praga are alot better, faster, more survivability, more pen, full high pen belts. And all this at a lower BR. Despite its even from a later date than the WW2 Kugel.