Does the Abrams have a spall liner? No from what I could find

ZTZ-96A (P):

  • Played last year
  • A premium vehicle spaded from the get-go
  • 1.8 K/D

M1 Abrams:

  • Played in 2018 as a far less knowledgeable player
  • Still lacking every single rank 3 and 4 modification (played without premium)
  • 1.7 K/D

It’s very hard when you make such extremely outlandish statements.

The things I’ve said? Almost all of which were numbers taken directly from the game?

How do you intend to disprove this:

I’m using a hacked client, perhaps? Do you want me to send you a DxDiag like when making a bug report?
I’m perfectly fine with arguing with 4 people at the same time by myself.

Thought you were talking about the Abrams being hard to one shot or hard to deal with when hull down, I can see this point about the T-80B vs BVM armor at their respective BRs.

However you have yet to say anything objective about the Abrams survivability, because someone with 2-3 braincells should be able to easily dispatch of a hull down Abrams.

Player experience at the time of playing is an excuse as far as I’m concerned. From your post history you dismiss excuses quickly so I’ll do the same. Instead of making excuses why don’t you play the Abrams again and prove me wrong. The numbers don’t lie sneedle deedle if you don’t like them play and change them. Statistical significance of the difference was never a part of the argument, so I’ll say it again play the game and change your stats if you’re such a better player now.

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Try to shot T-80B’s hull and Turret armor with 120mm DM33/M829/A1, K-EW and M900 since those shells can be find at that Br.

Now try to shoot BVM’s hull and Turret armor with DM53,Type-10,OFL F1,M829A2,L27A1 and lets see what happens.

Results are clear, BVM has significant less weakspots then T-80B when it faces the vehicles that sits at similiar Br’s.

The point isn’t about the T-80B and BVM. The point is that tanks at ~10.0/10.3 and tanks at 11.7 play almost exactly the same. That was a different argument with another one of you. And I sourced my proof for it just like with everything else - from the game itself.

All you’ve done so far is post a TEST DRIVE VIDEO of you killing an Abrams that wasn’t hull down with his turret ring exposed. A test drive Abrams. That sits there in the open. That was your proof.

If you think this hull-down profile, while utilizing all 10 degrees of gun depression in a proper position, and utilizing the high hp/t and 34km/h reverse is “easy to one-shot” (you’re certainly not hitting it in the turret ring if you’re actually facing someone intelligent) - you’re simply crazy.

(Especially bushed up, like mine is, and from a far greater distance than the one in the test drive)

Or rather, no, what you are is someone who wants to make people believe that the Abrams is worse than it actually is. Like someone else here…

Disccussion was about comparing T-80B and BVM’s armor, wasnt about using Abrams against them.

Not only you lack knowledge you also lack comprehending skills it seems.

120mm Dm33,M829/A1,KE-W and M900 can be found at 10.3, seems you also lack knowledge in this case.

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Or, and this might be crazy, I can actually aim against top tier tanks. They will need to stand still for a second or 2 to aim for a good shot. that second or 2 is more than enough to OHK him. Worst case scenario you destroy it’s breech and engine, leaving it dead in the water for a followup shot.

Yet all I see in you is someone with barely any experience at top tier making tanks out better than they really are, possibly that little experience at top tier has resulted in issues with aiming at that BR?

I’m actually sick and tired of talking to someone like this.
I’m not going to pick apart your worthless slop. Your entire post here reeks of a complete lack of self awareness which will no doubt be further exacerbated in any continued responses.

Blocked.

Oh wow! Just like you could with the BVM? Or basically every other top tier MBT?
Except the Abrams has a better shell, more gun depression, a higher reverse speed and a 5 second reload!

How do you sleep at night?

Oh look Mr “i have no pointless arguments left so im going to block you”.

How original…

Exactly. Do I need to remind you that my point from the start has been that the Abrams survivability is nothing special. I have never said that it’s survivability was worse than others.

Although it’s survivability is definitely worse than the likes of the Strv 122s and 2A7s.

You were the one making the Abrams put to be some highly survivable tank.

Abrams is not easy to kill bro.

Source:Trust me

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10x easier with the Russian frags

I know since i use those Glorious He Frag rounds against any Us Mbt that tries to go Hulldown against me.

Point is bein able to overpressure them with HEATFS is even funnier.

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Absolutely outrageous that such an unrealistic exploit exists, by the way.

Not surprised tbh, somehow only Nato Tanks does have these kind of nonsense exploits at top tier.

Another best example is the Commander Periscope on Leopard2A5/6/7 Tanks, if you shoot the periscope with He frag it will overpressure the entire tank, including the driver…

Sure it isn’t surprising, but it’s absolutely outrageous nonetheless.

Not top tier but as a small example; I’ll never forget slapping a Swede T-55 in the commander cupola with 165mm HESH and only damaging the commander sight despite the entire right tracks clearing the ground from the impact.

IRL it’d be a slag heap. In-game it should be the same, yet it was not the case.

I could go on about how cupola shots on Warsaw/Ivan post-WW2 hardware in WT is near-completely ineffective but that’d be just stating the obvious.

Agree.

Nah you see according to Gaijin that was the best possible outcome you could get, should have used Russian He frags instead of useless HESH because apperently Brits doesnt even know how to make shell.

We could go all day but in the end it will change nothing.

As long as community stays in this road instead of becoming one and demanding proper fixes we will see many more outrageous exploits.

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Sneed can’t stop exposing how much hatred he has for the US, and can’t stop ranting about the Abrams being the “Second Best Tank in The Game”.

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Classic Sneed moment.

Comes to Us thread

Spit his hatred towards Us vehicles and throw some random empty claims

Insults other people

And finally leaves after his empty arguments runs out.

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