Do you think the Super Hornet needs AIM-174B?

yeah, but as far as i can tell meteor would still be out ranged by both pl17 and aim174. The big difference being that meteor would probably have a similar nez, maybe a little smaller, and they should be more abundant on their respective platforms. So sorta like where Aim 120d/c-8 would fit in the meta against pl15 and r77m. More missiles per plane, but less overall range.

I’m also going to put a disclaimer in here that I know pretty much nothing about pl17 other than a supposed 300-400 km max range. I think it gets an aesa seeker too.

maybe. but personally, i think Meteor could come to keep EFT’s and Rafales competitive against the first wave of gen 5 (F-22, J-20, Su-57)

F-22 will have 6 AIM-120’s and 2 AIM-9, J-20 4 PL-15 and 2 IR missiles (idk if PL-8B or PL-10)

So to have meteor would balance it out against stealth jets

thats only internal
it can have at least 4 more external possibly 8

That’s a good idea too. It feels so wierd to be on the edge of gen 5 already. Feels like yesterday I was just unlocking the mig29 and that was what? 3 years ago?

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I’m hopeful stealth will be decent so there’s reason to go internal. The F-22 can also go extremely fast with internal weapons

Yeah

I doubt it tbh

and its not like pylon drag is modeled so no point bringing only internal over firing all external at the start of the match

The argument is the Hornet should get the AIM-174 to compete with more capable platforms that also carry the AIM-120. Fixing the missile that all the planes carry doesn’t fix the balance issue with other trees getting vastly superior platforms.

But it would improve a whole lot other planes carrying AMRAAMs, which would level the field against other airframes with other missile series, especially on medium/close ranges.

Anyway, I honestly think the F/A-18E shouldn’t get the 174, but not because Gaijin will gimp it. But rather I’d argue the fact the Hornet series will never be seriously close to the meta, unless Gaijin commits to deliver the best possible version of the plane.

There’s currently one proposed engine improvement on the works, but I repeat, I’m not entirely convinced they’re adding it.

yeah but they should only give it to me and me only. (i dont plan on researching the super hornet anytime soon)

With the current meta, will the Aim174 be impactful or act more of a gimic?

With the ESA of the 18E…they would Smoke people like crazy from across the map! Side climb at start of match to 5000 meters, build to 1.2 Mach fire and assist with TWS track…would be CRAZY even on a SLOW platform like the 18E.

but then the main problem here is: do we know if it has a Datalink? and at what range does the seeker go terminal?

Gaijin is NOT going to make the 5th Gens TRASH, just like the new missiles and now new Radars change things, 30SM2, Gripen E and EFT…stealth is going to be strong. The Stealth they have will be able to give them the first shots at range and then defend before you know you where shot at! This is why Gaijin has said they have to put a hand full of air mechanics in before 5th Gens show up next year. One of them has to Electronic Warfare to give the jets we have now a fighting chance!

It would have to have datalink of some kind to be launched as a fox 3. Pretty sure they can be even datalinked to an AWACS to increase the effective range because the current f18e’s aesa cant see the maximum range of the missile.