What acutally bothers me with small maps is the fact that you adjust the engine volume separately between your own engine and others. Because of that you can hear anyone approaching from like 6 blocks away which denies any attempt of an ambush. Especialy on city maps this is really annoying due to the fact that if you drive around a corner you expose your chassis before your turrent, so anybody that is defending the angle can shoot you first before you are able to shoot them in return. That why I think most city maps are awful to play because a counterattack is almost impossible with this volume settings currently. And from a realistic perspective you won’t hear anything inside of a tank apart from your own engine. So if you ask me if you wanna have to advantage of hearing other engine you should have to shut off your own. I think this might make smaller maps more enjoyable.
theres a balance some maps do it better than others it just doesnt work because average players in this game stink compared to old gen
I wish. I’ve had my engine sound turned all the way down to 30%, enemy engines to 100%, and lowered the gun volume so I can crank up the overall volume, and my engine still drowns out 75% of all sounds.
one of the problems is that for most of the big maps in WarT Gaijin takes a normal map and put some sides on it but they are like forests or very big sand parts that are not very interesting tacticaly , i think they have to create new biger maps that are fun and where you have to use your brain to win the battle !
CHILE MENTIONED AS A LINEAR MAP RAAAAH 🗿🔥🗿🔥
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Worse for RP gain, and it also leads to ODL, which is one of the big problems at top tier right now.
That is completely not relative to map size, you should play the objectives regardless, therefore you should always have some decent amount of ammo and be capable to replenish at one point of the match if you’ve survived long enough.
It’s a weakness that they trade for having a lower profile than most of MBTs, therefore they’re also capable of sneaking around the smallest hills and short the gaps.
And so is the permanent CQB around capture points, that’s peak hypocrisy by trying to ignore the current statu quo that relies on CQB to secure most of capture zones (at least there’s some maps that tend to have a point out in the open, but it’s not a granted thing on most of maps in the current pool).
Something we can agree on, glad to read it.
I was going to create a new thread for this, and decided to use this topic instead. This issue has been driving me insane for months now. I enjoy top tier GRB gameplay a great deal - combined arms, fast vehicles, effective rounds, the lot of it - but these map rotations are unbelievably awful. I will go dozens of matches between maps with more than 1km between spawns, and 50% of those are urban landscapes with no sightlines longer than 500m. Gameplay is monotonous, wholly oriented towards people who are good at twitch shooting and snapshots, and utterly devoid of tactics - there is no flanking, there is no playing the objective, all that is available is a blind rush.
There needs to be a balance between CQB being available and everything being long range sniping, but this is getting intolerable. Maps available at 3.7 should not, under any circumstances be available for top tier. Spawncamping is immediate. There is no meaning to movement. Trashy players will spawnrush immediately and do nothing else. Everyone is clustered together for CAS to pick apart at will. This is an absurd state of affairs. Gaijin needs to fix their maps in a larger sense, but an immediate solution would be limiting top tier rotation to only maps that are 2x2km or larger.
yeah, it’s so fun to unlock new tanks and read Gaijins own words “this is not a brawler, shooting at a distance would be adviced” when you know gaijin is actively trying to discourage that playstyle with their map designs.
no most players prefer smaller maps its only the vocal minority on leddit and the forums that think that maps should be larger.
And you, of all people, have come to possess this knowledge in detail by what means, from these masses who don’t use the forums or social media to express their opinions?
Any source?
Great ad populum, i could genuinely say the same thing about people liking small maps.
So… a Poll on the forums with a 4:1 ratio in favour of larger maps is “bad data” but “trust me bro” is a perfectly valid source for saying people favour smaller maps?
“Statistics of the bans and dislikes shows that it isn’t the case. At the top rank players like both - big and also compact maps and compact maps even more.” Smaller maps are more likely to not be banned, which means that a majority of player prefer the smaller maps compared to the larger ones, contrary to what you see on reddit and the forums. Larger maps are more random which makes it harder for newer players to learn and have fun on. I don’t speak for all players, but I personally don’t like shooting at pixels of a turret at 1 mile. The fast paced and interesting gameplay is what attracted me to this game from other games like world of tanks. Good maps have nothing to do with size but playability for both sides, this is much easier to balance if the map is smaller. Gaijin has found that most players are interested in the more modern vehicles so this is more directed at those ranks. However it would be hard to find someone who likes to drive a slow low br tank on maps like red desert or volo.
How does it feel to be in the minority?
read above
Thats 4+ years old. The game has changed a lot since then and the maps have gotten worse.
So its not relevant to today. Heck its talking about flares for the Jaguar Gr1 in that thread, that was a long, long time ago.
its literally the only time gaijin has commented on this topic, you were the one who asked for a source. Provide me with a evidence that a majority of players prefer larger maps that isnt some echo chamber forum poll. lmao edited for crying
So… You ban the use of the only source which is the forums (and the dozens and dozens of threads complaining about map design of late) but you are fine to use a 4 year old source?
Why dont you find a source from 2024 stating that a majority of the playerbase prefer CQB maps?
Hell yea bro it’s all my fault I shouldn’t add that poll in and let people vote lol
You’re using a post from October 2020.
You know how many people have joined War Thunder since that quote? Look at this active player graph over time (at least, from Steam):
Again, Where’s Gaijin’s source to back up that information? Did they made a massive survey (like they’ve done previously on some relevant topics)? No.
Your argument relies on a 4 (on the way to 5) year old quote. For reference, kids learn to reliably speak by themselves on that frame of time. Lots of things changed, even Air top tier is entirely another ballgame.
Again, you’re confusing having a personal opinion and relating it to undeniable facts, i don’t deny that i like long range engagements, but you on the other hand were evasive on admiting the opposite, and furthermore, addressed my likings as a ‘minority’ thing without any relevant piece of data other than the good old convenient data™ Gaijin always has to push their changes whenever they seek something either detrimental or lucrative.
Modern vehicles that were built to engage at long distances. There’s no point on having 12x zoom sights on a target that’s 134m.
No one is asking for bigger maps for WW2 vehicles. Yes, they were likely put on open and large environments IRL, but that would really lead to a terrible gameplay experience, as they lack either pen, mobility, gun handing, etc. to have a decent time over 1500m.
So no, i’m not a minority just because you have a opinion opposite to mine.
Funny thing you started the allegations showing objectively terrible evidence, only to ask us for some high-standard, non-biased evidence, personally I don’t feel the need to satisfy your rhetorical bicycle.
Enjoy the 81%/19% on the main poll instead.
You are wrong though, because my step-sister knows him! he got 5000 hamsters in his pocket and his sister also never complained about the big maps so he assuming that she is on his side too, and then she also has 2000 pet guinea pig in her pocket that doesn’t make any noise so that makes him having 7000 voters on his side!
/s