At hight BR, from 10 to 11.7, the helicopters become a real cancer for the tanks battles.
I’m not saying i don’t want helis or planes. I’m saying, i want to pass more time, in ground battles, to look at the ground, than to look in the air. Much of the times, helis put themself out of range and just click on tanks coming on flags. They also pass theire time killing in respawning area. They are taking too much place on ground battles…
Theire is nomore any moment where i give more attention for tanks than helis and plane in tanks battles…
It already starts at 8.0 to be fair.
Your Helicopter gets missiles with a range of up to 4km while your Gun SPAA has a range of 2.4km and even then the accuracy is…minimal.
However, Gaijin is not interested in providing the players with a ground vehicles only experience nor are they interested in providing you with the means to counter the air thread through ground vehicles.
They want you to hop into a plane yourself to deal with helicopters and other planes.
I’m not even speaking about only ground vehicules in ground battles. I think it’s good to have to deal with and accept helis and planes on gound battle ! This is okay. I’m just saying that helis and planes are killing the ground experience the way they are implemented… :s
While I do think Ground Battles/Combined Battles should put more emphasis on the well-ground, there should also be an emphasis and a proper not lazily placed together emphasis on Anti-Air, something tutorials are poorly designed and don’t teach people anything. Which is done intentionally=Causes folks to go on the forums complain->Or buy premiums. Gaijin’s way of profiting off this game is just poor in every aspect. Compared to some other companies, not EA or those but smaller indie/independent companies which Gaijin isn’t. Those have built a bond, relationships, and multiple forums of communication, as well as interacted with the community heavily. Something Gaijin hasn’t done.
I don’t think there has been ever a time when the Developers of War Thunder have taken a day out of their busy schedule to have a “Play-Date” with the community in custom battles. It’s just never happened. Or even been on a call with different Content Creators as well as just random people who play the game to ask for their thoughts and issues, with the way the game functions
World War Mode, everyone complained about the issues, and instead of putting it on Hiatus and re-doing everything as well as reading what was needed which was communication/built-in translator and proper VOIP. It was shut down and scrapped.
If the argument is more “realism”, I want this to apply to balancing as well. Realistically you can’t fly over a war zone when there is an AA setup. I don’t like this realism where AA is balanced poorly, planes/helis are too cheap to spawn.
From game balancing perspective, there is no fun getting spawn killed by air 10 meters of your spawn.
The argument is not more realism. I mean…it can be ! I love realism sooooo much ! :)
But WT is not a simulator. It’s a “realistic” arcade game. I play it because realism, yes, it’s why i play WT instead of the other one. But it’s first a competitive arcade game…(even in “sim” mod).
If i need to have a real sim about planes/helis and if i want to dominate tanks from 25000ft in the sky, i go in DCS World, wich is my main game… And in DCS, a TOR can shoot you from 5 to 10km, even if you flare. A Mistral, 3 to 5/6km. And those unite are never alone and are covered by long range SAM. I mean. WT realism need to be more realistic :D . Even if it create some unbalance, real life is not balanced. But it also need to be fun and competitive.
In my opinion gaijin should let the planes with air-to-air weapons with less spawn points, so we can counter other planes or heli easily instead nerf and buff SPAA all the time
People will say ground only wouldn’t be realistic, thats why I was saying it is not realistic right now as well. Like a heli shouldn’t be able to hover above its airfield and launch missiles at your spawn. Or a jet shouldn’t be able to strafe my spawn when an AA is up.
They need to buff the AAs and SAMs. CAS is given way too many crutches for the damage it is capable of doing. If they can shoot me in my spawn from 4km away but my AA can’t lock them or shoot them from the same distance, then it is not balanced nor it is realistic.
I think Gaijin knows that people would chose ground only if that was an option, leaving all the premium air people mad because they can’t shoot fish in a barrel.
Problem is playing a tank is hard too, and grinding takes just as long if not longer. And once you have a fully modified heli, my tank becomes nothing but a waste of time. Like there is no way for me to fight a heli that is hovering over its airfield, launching missiles and dipping back in. Or a jet going million km/h, locking me from Narnia. There is no skill, there is no way to defend or counter properly, and they are too cheap to spawn. I either have to sit somewhere with an AA, get blown into pieces as soon as I spawn or simply not play the game.
Hey what if I don’t want to play Air in “Ground Battles”, or grind the Air tree to counter you, and how about you go play Air with other air vehicles if SPAA is too much for you? I don’t have the option to not play with Air. You have the option to not play with SPAA, yet you play ground why do you do that if they are OP?
But Its not the same thing, in ARB you kill just bots, its not fun. Play with GRB with planes is other game, its really good.
SPAA are OP but they dont need to buff or nerf it, in the way it is, it’s fine. I know because I play in the both sides. You only have the perspective of a tank player
Man you are trying to change the game, if you want just tank, go to play world of tanks
If Gaijin does only tanks matches, they will kill a lot of Strike Aircraft, this is not fun, just because the noobs dont know how to kill a simple plane or heli
GRB air guy calling people noobs. Brother air in GRB is a crutch, wheelchair even, for noobs. You can’t kill people tank vs tank so you hold w and click on some tanks from 4km far to feel superior.
Suggested CHANGE in this topic is getting rid of Air in GRB. Literally the topic in this discussion is about changing the game. Also I can do the same, go play ARB or DCS.
Holding w to a cap, getting enough points to spawn your crutches doesn’t count. I can tell you have less time in SPAA then you have in Air. Please tell me what do you do with your SPAA if I hover over my airfield with my heli, lock you in your spawn, shoot and dip down?
How do I counter this in a ground vehicle? How is this fun?
I bet tank vs tank would be fun too, and I think most people will choose tank vs tank if they are given the current air/tank vs air/tank or tank vs tank.
Please tell me what do you do with your SPAA if I hover over my airfield with my heli, lock you in your spawn, shoot and dip down?
Man, wtf, he is flying really high, If there is a spaa should kill it easy. I recommend you to play with heli, Its not easy like you see in the video.
This video is the same thing you watch a defyn’s video and think its so easy to fly with any plane, he doesnt show when the play doesnt work, and in this video he is playing against no SPAA almost of the time. Man I doubt he can do it in all matches
Again, I dont agree if just because you cant kill a easy heli that gaijin should put only tank vs tank
you just need spaa to kill them, you or your teamtes, i was like you, i hate helis when i saw them for first time lol now i kill 5 helis with flarak1 of germany sometimes lol they are annouying till you find how easily you can kill them with spaa, but sometimes smart heli players may kill you before you doing anything till you reach the top spaas, then killing helis no longer hard,. of course it depend on situations, for example you are engaging an jet, then a heli spawn an kill you lol its ground realestic battle, without helis and planes its not realestic and it doesnt have fun. good luck
in lower battle rates, killing helis with spaa is not easy, specially when you enaging an smart heli player, but try to move your spaa from spawn and hide in another safe location, also do not brrrrrrrrrrrt helis, they will inform your presence, try to fire in short period of time, 2 seconds, you can lock on enemy with your radar, alt+f
running from spike? lmfao, answer is simple: hide behind smoke lol thank me later
smoke also help you to escape from tv guided missiles, drop smoke, move a bit back
