Discussion on the Current State of Israel in the Game

Currently, Israel severely lacks an SPAA capable of effectively operating at BR 12.0. A brand-new SPAA needs to be introduced into the game. The Chaparral at 10.0 BR is incapable of posing any real threat to the F-16, F-15, Su-34, or even helicopters. Its lack of radar and poor missiles result in a significant deficiency in anti-aircraft firepower.

At 12.0 BR, the Merkava 4B/C struggles greatly against opponents like the Leopard, T-80, and 122. The poor armor and limited gun depression of the Merkava lead to a very unsatisfactory experience with this vehicle.

Additionally, the new F-15I cannot fire AGM-65 missiles or use Israeli domestic weaponry, making the AH-60 a better choice for CAS. I believe substantial adjustments are necessary to improve Israel’s poor performance at 12.0 BR.

Please note that English is not my native language, and this text was translated using an automated tool. Apologies for any grammatical errors.

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If the F-15I cannot use Israeli domestic weapons as its loadout due to the development team’s limited capacity, then at the very least, the loadout of the American F-15E should be copied to the F-15I. Since the F-15E received the engines that originally belonged to the F-15I, I believe it would be reasonable to treat the loadouts equally

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Won’t ever get them; not saying that out of hate, I’m saying that out of the fact that American mains can’t handle someone having a vehicle variant, or a vehicle better than theirs Period.

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I don’t think this can be blamed on American players; their vehicles have also been treated unfairly, seriously.

That’s satire; right?

You’re actually just joshing right?

PLEASE tell me your joking.

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Not really compared to the CR2 its actually very good, it just suffers from not very good players, and the Click bait players gave everyone perfect target practice

You know, the final decision on how the game content is implemented in the game lies with the developers, not with American players. Blaming American players doesn’t seem like a good approach to me.

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You must not be very active on the forum seeing how absolutely insane these US mains act when their vehicles aren’t the best. Most are just, completely delusional; some at least have some sense. (I’m speaking with firsthand experience btw)

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I’ve made a report of this, currently israel has the potential to get 2 good spaa’s(hsvd/adams and spyder-aio), the potential for the merkavas to be a good mbt( for there armor to be buffed to real life standards), and for israeli cas to match american and even russian counterparts( the addition of popeye and spice 250).

The thing is after many bug reports and requests, gajin hasn’t listened, they are adding new israeli tanks(safra) and namer ifv was leaked to come next update, but the only thing israel really needs rn are buffs to the merkavas, to the top tier aircraft, and to israeli spaa( 10.3 imp chaparral really suffers)

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You’re right, I don’t often participate in this forum. Most of the American players I’ve interacted with in the WT discussion groups are normal and reasonable.

american players aren’t the problem , the problem is gajin keeps adding american vehicles each update, maybe for once an update on fixing whats already in the game or adding new vehicles to nations that haven’t gotten a new one in a while would make the entire fanbase happier(except american mains lol)

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Yes, a good few are, but the forum ones are a different hellstorm.

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As a main ground player, I can say that there are many options for gaijin to make Merkavas gameplay much better than it currently is. They can simply just add LAHAT ATGM to Mk3-4, buff the armor against KE, make some new add-on-armor things such as mine protection/roof cage protection against top missiles attack and much more. But sadly, when looking at the armor of the Namer for example, we can see how much they really want to invest in Israel’s tree…

The mysterious disappearance of the Namer’s armor is a major issue, and it still hasn’t been fixed. It’s just ridiculous. Vehicles like the Merkava and other Israeli vehicles should be equipped with domestic ammunition, such as the Lahat, as you mentioned. Israel has many unique vehicles that could be introduced, but it seems like they are unwilling to invest much effort in this area at the moment…

buff armor against kenetic rounds and chemical rounds, the merkavas apparently can survive 20 kornets , and in WT it can’t even survive 1 rn/

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My friends and I play together using American, French, and Israeli vehicles. Since I haven’t researched the IAF yet, I currently don’t have AIM-120 as an anti-air option. When I saw that our team only had ADATS, and the enemy’s Su-34 was using KH-38 to accurately eliminate our teammates while I could only use Chaparral, I felt a deep sense of despair.

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Yes, all 10 tech trees lack SPAA for 12.0 and all 10 tech trees need SPAA.
Until then, we’re forced to bring fighters if we want to be anti-CAS.

The good:
Otherwise Israel has great aircraft, and good enough MBTs.
Israel’s 9.3 lineup is absolutely stacked and amazing.

yes, israels top tier mbts not so much but thats a known fact. All we can do is pray gajin fixes what should be fixed, and add many due spaa to countries that need them

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true. Italy, the United States, Israel, China, and others all need a new SPAA. I’m not asking for their performance to be exceptional, just at least something usable

Israel can and should get Spyder with Pythons for example.
It’d be a good way to introduce that IRCCM before aircraft.

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