Proxy should be the same as the WZ since iirc they were the same rounds bought for testing.
I could be wrong but i remember it being mentioned that they were the same ammo.
Has anyone tried figuring out which T-34-85 variations Finns had? I’m pretty sure all of them had S-53 gun and all were produced in 43 or early 44, but further than that I don’t know. For that a better source is needed.
There are at least two somewhat important changes which happened during war time T-34-85 (S-53) production. First is a slight armor increase and second was addition of electrical turret drive or rather it’s return. I don’t know why it was not installed in all vehicles and what the handcranked turn speed was.
I have tried looking into this thing but i honestly don’t think any other images of it exist, its fairly unique and mentioned in the topic list for this forum but i can’t find anything else on it. I assume it must’ve been a one off thing that was quickly pulled from work to focus on other projects.
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ye, from what I can tell in a little looking a while back, it feels like a one off, but at least we already know all the gun stats :D
we can probably eyeball turret traverse speed
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Sort of Looks like the Chinese Type 86 but with an extra commanders LMG (and slightly different turret).
There is apparently a Polish version as well:
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Poland has the BWP-40 which is iirc a Borfors joint project but i may be wrong.
I think they did both during trials:
I also found this image just now:
No info on what/where/when yet though.
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I think its more likely info on Finnish trials for the 25 will be difficult to find but given how mamy other countries went with the Canadian 25mm turret may be good enough to say they were generally all the same vehicle in performance.
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What turret is that on the second one
Likely this one:
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Canadian Delco 25mm Bushmaster turret most commonly seen on the LAV III
I wish we could get the censored Finnish swastika as a decal (seen on the premium KV-1 and Finnish planes).
Ohhh it’s that one
There is the försökskarrospansar m/37 (försekskp m/37) for an absolutely derpy rank I gun truck.
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At least it’s got a decent gun :)
Seems like Sweden is getting a Bandvagn based vehicle. Hottest bets seems to be on Eldenhet 98.
Edit: Based on this picture from this community update.
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Eh, more likely the prototype model with the Giraffe X1 radar than just the basic Eldenhet. Realistically its a neat vehicle but given ground launched range i cant see it being a addition to my dedicated screw CAS lineup.
the range and only having 4 missiles attached, 8 with ammo box which most other SPAAs at top BR has by default, so maybe it’s lower BR or you’re heavily relying on the box and capture point refill
it’s IR tho so depending on how effective it is at ignoring flares + agility, might be solid to deal with multiple targets at once, so maybe 2 jets flying towards you from different angles wouldn’t be impossible to handle
ISIS-T would basically be a guaranteed hit
Probably won’t happen, but maybe Sweden gets two spaa this and the RBS23 BAMSE either as a truck or a trailer that, according to the FMV, could technically be pulled by any vehicle, which includes the Bv410.
But if they model the IRIS-T correctly, it would be pretty much immune to flares due to the IIR seeker, and with its alleged 60g and 60º/s turning abilities, it’s gonna be hard to dodge,
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