Discussion of Potential Finnish and Swedish ground vehicles

Cause the chasis is abale to bounce is3 shells and would weigh substantially more. I domt k ow if i still have the akav 151 drive documents but i remember them having movement problems

The official data sheet gives the weight of akv 151 as 50.8 tonnes. That’s compared to the 53 tonnes of the bkan 1. Akv 151 has a p/w ratio of 13.8 while the bkan 1C has a ratio of 11.1. Iirc bkan 1 was also limited to not put strain on the chassis so you can see why akv 151 would be faster

Iirc the chassi used for the akan had its armor removed for the project so it would not be able to bounce the 122 sadly. Looking at images it even seems like the cannon was mounted backwards on the chassi so the frontplates would have been in the back.

It was mounted backwards so that the barrel would be over the main chassis to make it shorter. As for the armor i believe you are referring to the hydronuematic test done with the Kranvagn 2nd chassis which was the basis for the strv 103 aiming system.

Idk to me it feels weird that they would remove the armor for the tests just to ad it back again. The chassi is in the arsenalen museum rn and it has all the armor on it. So either the testbed had the armour or they just put it back after they tested it.

Anyone else think this tank is the same as this one?

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Finland captured a 2nd KV armed with the F-32 cannon, after breaking the track with a satchel charge it was repaired and ordered to return to finnish lines for a full repair. Unfortunately the crew was ambushed and a demolitions charge mounted on the vehicle before they left was detonated to prevent the soviets from capturing it.

Notice the turret applique armor and the roof mounted mg mount. Not to mention the missing driver and machine gun port. Additionally the hull armor plate seems to have been ripped off bybthe explosion.

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Yes the images appear to be of the same vehicle, I see the same applique armor, commander’s MG mount, wooden pole in background, cobblestone path, and hit markings on the turret and LFP.

And FYI, this is the F-32 gun found on the KV-1E/B, not the L-11.

My bad, thanks for the update, its hard finding info for this since the documents of the 26th antitank Battalion are kinda all over the place. Seems like whoever was writing the events down was in a hurry to do so.

Though have you ever seen a KV with just the frontal turret armor?

Not that I can remember, although judging by the unusual thickness I guess this example is an unstandard field modification of sorts.

Yeah, additionally its rare to see KV’s with the roof mounted mg (this one just has the mount)

All the more surprising to me that Gaijin decided to grant one to the Finnish KV-1A, I wonder if the Soviet version will receive the same.

I already asked Smin why the KV-1A has it and his response was because it can. Makes me wonder if the soviet model will be lacking one so they have a slight difference

Also the in the video for it it fights a panther F like what? Makes me worried my prediction of it being 5.0 is true

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I suspect it will be like the Hungarian Tiger situation; albeit photos prove that at least one Tiger in Hungarian service had the applique track armor, I don’t believe the same can be said for the MG on the Klimi.

I will still hold out for a 4.7 BR, but at this point you might be correct about 5.0 unfortunately.

If it is 5.0 like ive been so upset about considering if its 4.7 its more than likely gonna be food. Same with a full uptier and even worse at 4.7 you dont get a lineup. At 5.0 it has a lineup but its trash and not worth using.

Im hoping to make a suggestion for our mystery KV since its unique and would actually fit around 3.7 though its no KV-1B replacement

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Ill forgive gaijin if we dont get the KV-1B if we get the KV-2 instead


Soldiers beat the machine guns with iron rods until they were bent and couldn’t fire after the vehicle had gotten stuck. Eventually the comabt engineer placed a 30kg satchel charge on the back of the turret.

Hey if sweden can get a tiger 2 in the same condition finland can get a atomized KV-2

/s

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Don’t forget about the armored variant
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Wouldn’t make a big difference but a small boost to survival is better than none

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Still no examples with only the extra turret armor, but I stumbled across a post with more images of this modification. The author claims they are 75mm plates installed on vehicles produced at the Leningrad Kirov Plant in St. Petersburg. Wouldn’t be all too suprising as Soviet factories in WW2 were known to produce their own individual deviations and subtypes of specific model tanks.
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Yeah thanks, though the biggest problem im gonna have if the history of the vehicle it really isnt a whole lot which is the biggest reason i cant see it being accepted