[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

Quoting Shadow_CZ:

I just played another battle where my Italian BR 5.3 and 5.0 aircraft were no match for the new Italian (PREMIUM) MB-326B (BR 6.7) which was included in the battle. This is game mechanics abuse, as players create a line up they do NOT intend to use in the battle to gain an unfair advantage. This moved the MB-326B to a BR of 6.3 (within the 1 BR allowance for battles). IF the premium vehicle had plusses to it as stated, that would of raised it ABOVE 6.3, and it would NOT of been included in the battle line up. Obviously the “plusses” do not exist or are too insignificant to affect BR calculations.

On saying this, WHEN is Gaijin going to close this MECHANICS ABUSE loophole?

IF your top vehicle is BR 6.7, then it should NOT appear in a BR 5.3 battle!

I mean not really, since it is an intended mechanic. Calling it abuse is the same as calling for punishment which is very far fetched for something gaijin themselves put directly into the game.

IF, you can not do it with ALL vehicles it is obviously a bug, and therefore MECHANICS ABUSE of a KNOWN BUG.

ALSO, it was stated in the above quote that the maximum BR difference is 1.

WHY did the player NOT include a full line up vehicles? Because they KNEW how to EXPLOIT the known bug.

You can do it with all vehicles to my knowledge. Either way gaijin put it in the game directly. It isn’t a mistake.

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I tried various combinations … you can NOT do it with all vehicles.

BUT, you missed the point in that GAIJIN employee STATED that the MAX BR difference is 1 (ONE). This makes it a bug and forgotten about or intentional, or did GAIJIN lie?

Your defense doesn’t hold water. There have been other bugs gaijin has known about and when players exploited them they were punished. Here’s another one for you:- Gaijin doesn’t have anything in game to stop bot cheaters, so does that make bot cheaters correct in what they are doing UNTIL they are caught out?

I see no evidence of this.

They implemented this intentionally. They have talked about this mechanic in the past. Sounds like whoever said that just doesn’t understand their own game.

Then you have NOT tried many combinations IF at all.

And the latest statement was the BR difference of 1 MAX! Games change. Let me guess, you are one of those that use this BUG to get an UNFAIR advantage? Because the ONLY persons who defend this are the ones that NEED an unfair advantage. I had to spend a lot of time trying to figure out HOW players were getting around the system - it is NOT well known and is ONLY achieved by abusing the mechanics in the game, otherwise it would be in the HINTS for ALL to see!

1- This is a feature of fuel tanks… which all countries have.
2- ERA no, overlapping plates yes; and overlapping plates are a feature of all 10 tech trees.
3- F-18C, XP-50, EBR, M1A1 HC, T58, TURM III… to name a few.
I don’t buy into the “Just USSR” narrative.
4- Weird bounces happen to all tanks in game. Welcome to the funny world of physics.
5- Hidden walls in armor is currently a myth. Merkava Mk4 LIC had one of these, the other was IS-6. Both have been fixed.
T-44-100 was missing a turret roof for months further back.
IS-6 was also reduced in BR after its armor issue was fixed.
6- Space models isn’t a thing.
7- Yes, there is footage of ten-thousands of T-series tanks turrets flying… War Thunder footage.
And that’s just the content creators, there are hundred-thousands to millions of instances.

BMPT should move up in BR of course.

I don’t play arcade. I have however watched aiooiliee or whatever his name is on YT and he was one of the first people to popularize this tactic. He never stated it only applied to “some vehicles” in that video to my knowledge and I have seen no reports or evidence other than you saying it to confirm it only applies to specific vehicles.

Somebody disagreeing with you doesn’t mean you can paint them as a bug abuser. I don’t even play arcade.

I’m not even defending it, learn to read.

I only play arcade because of medical conditions.

Try the French line up:- F8F-1B (BR 6.3) and VB.10-02 (BR4.3) … Battle BR “should” be BR 6 and max BR 7.0. Correct? WRONG! Battle BR was 7.3. Therefore it does NOT happen with all vehicles.

Yet, you refuse to answer the question and dodged answering so far.

My reading skills are quite fine thanks but … UMMM … that sounds like a defense to me.

Let me ask this question for a DIRECT response.
GIVEN that what was is no longer true, do YOU agree that this is a means of abusing the game mechanics given that the MAX BR that Gaijin has stated is and should be 1?

I didn’t say anything about you playing arcade. I don’t care what people play.

No I haven’t. You just don’t like what I have to say.

I literally just said gaijin clearly intends for it to be here since 1. They have talked about it being an intended mechanic in the past and 2. They have not removed it when it has been in game for years.

Every lineup should just have a 1.0br cap. See? Not so hard.

In other words, if a player uses a vehicle 1.3 BR OVER the base BR instead of 1.0BR then it is an abuse of the game mechanics. OK. GOOD - that is what Gaijin says.

Let me ask you this DIRECTLY then:
HAVE you used (yes or no) this “mechanic” as a means to gain an advantage?
AND did you check out that combination that does NOT work?

How many were using aimbots?
This bonus system for top scoring players has only introduced LESS teamwork and MORE aim-botting into the game. I remember years ago when the game was all about teamwork. NOW, it’s all about who gets the highest kills.

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That is not at all what I said, hence why you have a reading comprehension problem.

I have so few games in arcade that statshark doesnt track it

Did you NOT say that it should be a BR max of 1? I’m sure that was quite easy to understand. Anyone disagree?

I never asked if you used “statshark”. To intentionally do something means to do it with intent, NOT accidental. WHY are you avoiding the questions I have asked? Do you NOT understand them? Do you have a comprehension problem? OR GUILTY as charged?!!!

Look. I’ve said my piece, and I’m obviously NOT going to get a discussion on this matter, just abuse in stating what you have stated. NO point me trying to continue an attempt of a constructive dialog with you when all you want to do is abuse me.

Yes? Has nothing to do with what you’re saying. Is English your 2nd language?

I guess it is.

Ironic.

Yes I abuse bugs in the gamemode I do not play and have not played in 8 years. You got me. Learn to read.

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Somebody tell my why matchmaking is broken again? On our team 0 10.7 planes, enemy have 3 - j7d i mark them in yellow

PS. we have 12 Strike aircrafts… Why subsonic strike aircrafts dont have better spawn?

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I’ve been noticing quite a few matches where my team has only 13.0 jets and the opposing team has like 5 SU-30MKKs

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Because A-7Ds caused 90 second matches.

Congratulations everyone on a happy Christmas! Here I will tell you a joke. Developers racked their brains and BMPT arrived at 10.7!!