[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

Theres too many variants to not spread them out - 1 full BR and then missiles doesn’t help either. Ud end up with 0.3 difference between them all?

Ok, so why are you against uptiering the 15s, 17s, and F86s back where they belong, because you haven’t actually even tried to answer this question?

Hey so if gaijin downtiered only the Rafale and the SU30SM2 to 14.3 but left the j15, J16, and all the other crappier 14.7s up there, would that make sense to you? With the Rafale and Su30Sm2 being the best jets?

where do they belong though? mig17 9.0 with missile variants also 9.0?

Please specify which jets you are referring to. I know one of them is the MiG-17AS. What are you comparing it to

F5 and the russian premium that was on sale the other day not sure its name

shenyang f5 is not going to be balanced until decompression, simple. It is the outlier and all other sabre/migs should be moved up regardless to fix 99% of the issue

Then it becomes pay to win tho.

Look at the J35j vs XS- they cant even add a new jet without it being DOA its that compressed. It needs massive overhaul

No? you can just put it at 9.3, regardless it wouldnt be 1/5th of p2w as something like ariete or mig15bis ish CURRENTLY are even if you leave it at 9.0 with the other mig17s. It’s just a Lim-5P with 2 aim-9bs

This has nothing to do with compression. Read this again: They downtiered the BEST JETs at 8.7 and left the worst ones.

You know F5 isnt getting yeeted.

They moved the best 8.7s down like you say. They want it like this unless bad stats? seems random if not

Yes its compression-the XS has to be 10.3 as it gets smoked if higher BR and premium. So a new C/P jet with no CMs gets same BR as it has nowhere to go

What? It was 9.3 for far longer than the tiny period of time its been 9.0.

So why are you ok with the best jets going down and the worst jets staying higher BRs?

This has nothing to do with compression. Compression does not have anything to do with downtiering the best jets and leaving the worst ones.

Variants previously lowered= F5 lowered = more sales£

I dont know why they were lowered if it wasn’t stats its probably somewhere along the line £ related

Ok but what is your stance on fixing all these jets and sending them back right where they belong

If no current jets have to go from 9.7 to 10.0 then its good as GJ seem allergic to mess with 10.3- 12.0 so its where jets go to die

How is it ok in its current state and not better to be reverted and fixed

Early jets > props. Sabres and friends > early jets. Super sonics/ missiles > Sabre. Game is fairish up to now

If it causes F6C etc to end up at 10.0- most unfair BR in the game- Id sooner keep it as it is now

whats the point of this radar if its so tiny by y-achis?

no idea, its not even helpful in sim, only when i am on clouds its useful

Lmao what? What kind of mental gymnastics is this? How is it fair that the F86s and the MiGs are just way better than everything else at their BR by large margins, you aren’t addressing this.

Read: Imagine if the Rafale and Su30Sm2 were made 14.0. How would that make you feel?

GJ said themselves that is balanced as they fight each other xD

I just don’t think the difference is that wild at these BRs. G91 which Iv tried a few times from BP shop is up there- not sure if others like it but Il buy it next sale

Im not against moving the jets u say its just what happens higher up that bothers me. Best 9.7 - worst 10.0