[Discussion] Balance, Bias, Matchmaking and Battle Ratings

War Thunder vs Reality

Russia and China tanks in War Thunder hit the ammunition depot:

2 seconds later the German Tank

and here comes the Reality

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I like reality.
The game is slowly becoming more wishful thinking of all.

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War Thunder is the advertised performance of Russian/Chinese vehicles. Not really GJN’s fault that they are not good in real life tbh.

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Quite funny how “REALISTIC” they want to make things until it doesn’t suite narrative.
Remember when ‘KIRILL YUDINTSEV’ Made a post GASLIGHTING and insulting the people paying his rent?
They deleted the posts but I saved them in both pictures and copied to word.
Did you all notice that Chinese missiles in WT are the best in the world but have never been tested?
K thanks. I will take your delete and ban now. Like you do to all dissention.

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Well, I don’t think anyone mentioned it because of the Su22UM3LK, Su22M3 and Su22M2 aircraft. Why are they br 10.0 directly? I am currently using them and it is quite significant the difference there is both when bombing and intercepting enemies. not to mention that mostly depending on the Su22 you end up playing in 11.0 in most cases in which you get to the middle of the map and there are no targets to destroy either bases or enemy units or directly you do not get to do activity.

Hey, how on earth is the M-51 6.0? It shoots a 105mm projectile at 800 m/s with 400mm max damage. With the same reload time as the M3 90mm (somehow). Its the same BR as the Sherman with a Pershing turret and the Centurion Mk. 1, while having mid to late 1960s anti tank technology. It’s superseded by the AMX-13 somehow twofold, while being an inarguably viable at knocking out any tank frontally without N/ERA, which only becomes a factor at around 8.7. It is frankly ridiculous and should be at least 6.7.

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Because it was worthless at 6.7 and 6.3

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Tell me you’ve never played a tank without telling me you never played a tank

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R&D revenue -50%, silver coin revenue+50%, and the time cost of game investment remains the same. Is this the result you want? The newly updated unpacking data indicates that the R&D revenue in the bureau will be reduced again, so I am curious. A few months ago, what was the original intention of everyone’s protest?

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I think anybody can see that the runaway winner in nearly every game is the player who came in a BR above everybody else.I’m watching a load of replays to see how a player gets ten kills for no deaths etc and it’s nearly always the player who came it at 6BR when everybody else was at 5 for example .
They get 10,11,12 kills and the runner up gets 4 or 5.Same when I dominate.Im feeling pleased with myself then see it was only because I came in a BR above everyone else.Im one shotting Crusaders in a Panzer IIIJ and it’s unfair really.I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for the opposition.
I also hate how BR takes me into an era I have no desire to be in.We still need era separation to stop the game becoming a farce otherwise realistic vehicle modelling is irrelevant.All this super realism when 40s tanks are facing 80s vehicle’s and prototypes that never saw a battle.
As the years roll by this is the only real complaint I still have about Warthunder,I have come to accept every other aspect of the game.

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WTF is the point behind this?

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The 76 at 5.7 is probably meta but not op

75 mm variant.

I’ve played it, and it absolutely decimates everything.

You have one game with 2 deaths and 0 kills, nice try tho.

+1 / -1 BR in naval is the ultimate joke.
I played about 6 battles in my Pr. Eugen in the last few days, every single time you get 7,0 BBs and 7,0 BCs running around.
You have zero chance, zero, non-at all whatsoever chance against them.
If you are lucky, somebody drives into your torpedos which…well, you must launch first and given, that they immediately focus you with often easily crippling effects in 1 salvo, well hf launch more than 4 or 6.
It’s a joke and i do not know what person is responsible for this, but this is sick.
Whoever finds joy in this ?
It’s the same when i easily kill 4,7 DDs before the up-tier of the pr eugen to 6,0 - it wasn’t fair.
It’s a joke and anyone with a brain knows it.

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i honestly do not know, why they do not make it -0,3 / +0,3 BR or they could start with 0,7.
So they argue, there would be a too long waiting time.
How does it improve waiting time when every single battle is +1 -1 BR ?
It does not change the number of players of a certain BR.
You just have to wait the same time only to get shoved into unbalanced MM, the math is not working out.
You would wait almost excactly the same time, if it was only 0,3 or 0,7.

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What is the point of giving an aircraft a BR if matchmaker is going to put you up against a higher BR, even when said aircraft is the weakest at its current BR?

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Guess it’s because it’s an Israeli tank ! … And I have been thinking / wondering … exactly like you !

Air RB Feedback

Changes to maps:

  • City and Rocky Pillars: These maps are too small for any kinds of planes that are not dogfighters and promote too much importance of a furball fight.

Changes to planes:

  • F-4EJ: either preferably give it usable SARH like AIM-7E2 or if not, reduce it to 10.7 BR. The fact that the F-4E is at 11.0 and this thing also at 11.0 is absolutely unfair. You have to at least have the common sense to let a compulsory grind plane for Japan be good or above average.

  • F-104S.ASA: The plane is balanced for the time when the AIM-9L was busted, now, its a Starfighter at 11.3 that has (2)-4 average IR missiles and (2) slightly better AIM-7E2. Compared to the Mig-21MLs and F-4J(S), it should be clear. Either it should be able to bring more missiles or be reduced to 11.0BR.

Remember that having a good plane in a tech tree to be an incentive for the tree can be okay, especially if that country has NOTHING else at the tier. Like if planes can be at a lower BR because they don’t have all the weapons then a tech tree should have a good plane at a tier because no more planes are/can be added to make the grind bearable.

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