Oh there are many like that. Its just that such games are not well known in EU area.
People are complaning that they will be grinding non stop for entire year with little downtime.
How is that not complaining about the new system?
Im here to argue with people that new system is better for anyone thats not fomo collector that needs to grind every time limited vehicle.
People willingly grinding for 2.7 plane that has one mg less and different livery when compared to TT counterpart 20 hours a day dont have a life outside of this game.
Assuming they will be grinding EVERY event vehicle.
For me, im not interested in naval at all, and only in unique ground vehicles and maybe few planes. Having to grind at max 22.5k points a day for few vehicles and planes over the year sounds much less punishing than to grind 45k points every day for two weeks to get both air and ground reward.
Wouldnt you be sad that your list of potential partners shrank?
the normal game mode will be dead after a few weeks, everyone will just greedily chase the event points in the vehicle best suited for points.
Teamplay will be even worse than it already is and spawncamping will be the rule after 2min no matter what tier you are in.
I know you don’t want old experienced players in the game who want to improve the game, young inexperienced people with loose wallets, that’s what you’re interested in, not the few bucks of the old ones.
Its still a long time to grind, most people have work and\or school
I think 30-35k would be overall better for the community than 35-45k,
i think if you really want to have it set a little higher 30-30k would be suitabe,
please dont make us grind 45k
People wouldn’t be grinding nonstop if it wasn’t this insane amount of score to grind.
Couple hours per day isn’t “grinding nonstop”, but 4-6 hours per day is.
The downtime doesn’t have to be more than said couple days IF the grind isn’t supposed to burn you out every single event.
Like it currently very obviously is.
Isn’t that…the literal point of these events?
So why is the grind so horrible, when they wanted to “provide players with ways to obtain all vehicles in events”?
Your personal beliefs on if players should want to grind all vehicles or not are irrelevant.
Good for you.
Sure, except it never was 45k, but 20k per vehicle.
And that 2 week hell was doable because there was few months between each event.
While score needed per day could certainly be lower, 22.5k a day is insane amount of score you need 4 hours at minimum to grind?
Again, assuming you grind EVERY vehicle that appears.
No? You grind vehicles you want ornyou are interested in. No one is forcing you. If you want every slightly recolored biplane thats on you.
They did provide way for people to grind everything they want when compared to previous events. I wanted both vilkas and mirage, only grinded vilkas due to time constraints. unser new system i can have both.
Right back at you buddy. Your personal belief people should be grinding all vehicles is irrelevant.
It was 20k per day, per vehicle
Player wanting both vilkas and mirage wpuld have to grind 40k points a day.
Not if you have life outside of warthunder and have to pay rent, eletricity and food.
22.5k at the average 1000-1200score per match and 15min average match time (without counting wait times, time at hangar and your other real life activities) comes to 4.6 - 5.6 hours.
Never said i need that, but the average joe does according to sTAtIstICks that gaijin loves oh so much.
Again, NO SHIT… That’s been the clear point this whole time.
Grind is too much for those who want every single vehicle. God you are dense.
I wanted and got both, so clearly the problem was on you and not the old system!
No. People should be able to get all events done in a game without suffering in real life for it.
It’s obvious fault in the game, doesn’t matter how you try to twist it.
New drivers from AMD, and it turns out that they don’t work well with War Thunder. What I said before, stop with the garbage and imbecilities and get to work seriously once and for all, this is already going from being a joke to being an insult .
This is yet another slap in the face to players who play the game for fun and not to ‘grind’ anything.
The game design for ARB is now over a decade old and continues to rot and deteriorate with abhorrent updates such as terrible ticket bleed mechanics, shortened match duration, adding additional players to each lobby and dozens of other stealth, unjustifiable changes and now they want to poison the well even further with incentivizing poor, ‘grinding’ gameplay?
For clarification - I think this new system rocks and is far, far better than esoteric and confusing crafting events that I need a reddit guide on how they work, like the “build a cruise missile” event that hardly tells you the criteria.
This way, I just…play the gamemode related to the vehicle I want, do good and I get it. Ezpz.
Could the point requirement be lower? Absolutely. But I would rather be having fun playing the vehicles i’ve earned or actively enjoy, than playing a completely seperate gamemode where I have to use vehicles i’m unfamiliar with or don’t enjoy.
This change rocks and i’m 100% on board with this. Also have a family and a full time job as a senior analyst, so I don’t want to have to read the rules of an event and learn it’s quirks lol
I just want to play War Thunder and also earn cool stuff :P
This change will reduce burnout because the events are far less intensive.
1/3rd the required points during any given time to get all 3 vehicles, and if you only want one, that’s one event every 2 - 3 months; 1/3rd of a standard event every 2 - 3 months.
Ok then I dare you to grind all of these event plus the updates on top of that.
The only problem I have with this even is the score.
Let’s say it’s a rank 3 idk Hungarian Pz.4 for Italy.
Since it’s a low tier vehicle so it maybe 35K
So with the max you can get is around 2,000 per match so give or take around 25 to 30 matches.
Or you can get a job by cleaning peoples cars and windows for like 10 quid per car/windows.
If the stages stay the same at 999GE then you are already done 3 to 4 task just by cleaning 2 cars.
While it will take a normal person to get them at least one star in 5h.
So idk about you but I rather clean someone car then grinding this event
Grinding events is grinding TT vehicles.
The score is ~1 hour of work a day for air.
~1.5 hours a day for ground at my most performing BRs of 4.3 - 7.0, and a little more at top BR.
And 30 - 50 minutes a day for naval since it’s so BR compressed that no matter what i play it’ll be fast.
2000 net-score per match is 800 - 1100 score in the match itself. You forget multipliers.
I rarely get below 1000 score, and I get above 2000 score in ground matches rather consistently.
Events have never been either-or for grinding TT vehicles, especially me where nearly all my completions are air, so when I touch 4.3 - 7.0 ground I’m always researching something.
And all of this is standard play, I’ve averaged 2 - 3 hours of battle time a day for the last 5 years. That’d be out of 7 hours of the stereotypical “full-time” free time during weekdays.