Developer greed has entirely killed US top tier ground and any motivation i had to play the nation in ground rb is gone

Since they added the t-80ue that will somewhat offset the us premium noobs problem since both sides will have them isn’t it lol

Those don’t exist, or at least afaik there isn’t any special form of ammunition that specifically defeats DU armor. HEAT worked well against normal RHA, but then ERA/NERA was created to combat that, and then APDS/APFSDS was adapted/upgraded to deal with those, and DU is just the incorporation of DU into NERA.

Sure, there are tank rounds IRL that penetrate probably any form of armor in existence, but in War Thunder they use a weird penetration formula that from what I can tell will hit a limit at some point (if the APFSDS penetrators don’t get considerably longer).

Regardless, having an extra 35% KE and 25% CE on the turret and then adding the turret’s level of armor to the hull will definitely make the Abrams better. If you want a basic rundown of the hulls (and why the in-game M1A1HC and M1A2s have incorrect armor), here’s a timeline I did: M1A2 series...turret armor - #9 by SpeclistMain1

You’d think so but because the T-80UE hasn’t gone on sale at all yet, there are still vastly more Clickbaits.

Meanwhile I think this is the 2nd or 3rd Clickabit 50% sale.

When I mentioned it better shells I meant just you know better shells not shells that are specifically made to go against do armor and second of all I’m sorry but NATO tanks are not meant to have equal whole armour as a turret armor because the studies They did showd that the majority of area that would get hit on their tanks is The Turret and that’s where they emphasise the armor plus their Tactics of preference to fight in a hold down position

That’s just wrong, did you even look at the timeline I posted? Also, if that’s the case, why do the 122B+/2A7s have such good hull armor?

Well first of all I’m not I’m still reading and second of all the Swedish the leopards have different type of armour because of the doctrine of that country

You mean because of Gaijin’s disdain for Germany.

I just want to clarify I don’t want state that it never had du armor I’m just saying What I Saw I’m a nerd for t72 I don’t really know much about the Abrams I’m saying from all the pictures and from people that I’ve talked to it doesn’t look that whole armour is equal to turret armour and again from previously mentioned studies where they saw that majority of the rounds that did impact their tanks was in the turret and I came to conclusion that if they did reinforce the armor they probably emphasise the turret as the place where it got hit the most

clearly you do not own one.

This kind of insecure, attention seeking statement tells us only who you are.

They are not easy to keep alive and are not like the Strella with auto-tracked ordinance.

Tell this to my dog, cuz I couldn’t care less about your yapping nonsense

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Paul here is tired of it

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U.S ground is mid and Air is tops. Thats it

It’s not just the playerbase, vehicles sucks too. Gaijin really should fix that Hydraulic Pump already, not only it’s unhistorical, but makes playing Abrams pure pain, you get hit anywhere in the hull? You lose turret drive 90% of the time and cannot fire back. If it’s LFP shot then you lose the engine and driver too, just sitting duck waiting for enemy to finish you off.

And for Heli’s, the Longbow should get it’s Spikes or the F&F Hellfires with IR guidance instead of radar. Sadly there’s no fix for top tier SPAA yet.

You also have the turret ring.

USA ground is below mid, 5 second reload is average now, Heli with only Hellfires is below average, Abrams has good active advantages but those are topped by Japan and France, and for armor wise, only the turret cheeks work when hull down, any shot to hull disables the tank completely and cannot fire back like most of other tanks. Only above average is the CAS and CAP capabilities.

Man I don’t even care about that thing anymore, that Hydraulic Pump was 10 times worse nerf than that ring ever was but it doesn’t get mentioned because most of this playerbase stopped playing USA long time ago, that’s why players suck, hardly any veterans play that tree. Gaijin has completely abandoned USA top tier in ground for years now, it’s worse than a lot of minor nations, France top tier is almost better in every way, especially when getting Leopards next update.

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You think US CAS is broken? You should check your own tree, it’s got better AGM’s while also having one of the best top tier lineups in the game with amazing heli and tanks and best SPAA. USA only had the CAS as strong point and that is also has been taken away by Russia.

just wait for the Su-34

even more KH-38s and it can defend itself with R-77s

I’m sorry I would disagree Russia does have some powerful vehicles but US just has more of them you can be in denial if you want but us does have the best CAS in the game

same with strike eagle shit ton of glide bombs with 6 agms