Ngl, thought this was going to be another “Neveragain TFH” or whatever his name is post.
Then you’re not looking enough, there are whole government documents proving it does for all the way back to at least the original m1a2, it’s been a discussion topic countless times, but still not accepted.
We need the USA tech tree to be updated they have to USA top tier in 2008 tech everyone else haze there new tanks and IFV the USA is stuck with BS NOT fair our tank are not modeled correctly our tech tree is horrible other nations has better versions of our own vehicles
We need to whip out the SMIN01080
“Here take this”
“+1 cope”
Found it:
Ok let’s say they even upgrade m1a2 with a DU armor what is that going to change you understand if they do that and the other shells cannot penetrate that type of armor just going to add more powerful shells which is going to negate the DU armour and then we are back at the start or maybe even worse because then you would have bigger weak spots
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Imho that was always their goal (at least since they decided to put Mach 2 jets into the game).
As said before - earnings - and players tend to flock to vehicles & nations with high WRs. On top of that WR is the most popular way to steer & balance f2p games from gaijin’s perspective. The MM which creates lobbies based on certain nation combinations plays an important rule too.
You might be not representative for all players. War games are usually seen as competitive games and wt is nothing more than a vehicle based shooter.
Edit: I was wrong about Mach 2 jets - gaijin said in 2018 that they wont add supersonic aircraft:
The DU discussion is really only the tip of the iceberg when you are talking about changes to be made. And mind you, the other changes are not as big but would sure up some of the weak spots, which have already been accepted months ago and haven’t been implemented. Things like volumetric accurate turret ring, UFP and armor around the driver correction (fuel tanks) as well as side armor values. All documented, all proven, all submitted and reviewed. I won’t go into spall liners because that’s a topic that is widely debated. But saying that it shouldn’t get its DU hull upgrades because round could still go through it is not a reason deny them. Things like shots at angles could then get deflected better, no more turret ring kills from WW2 guns and auto cannons going right through the ring, etc. Also, even if the shots pen, the spall from going through better armor would not look the same or as large.
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Just US Top Tier Ground? You sure it isn’t the game as a whole?
The thing is, as shown with the SEPv2, LAVAD and F15 E, even if you get more advanced things, if they don’t give the accurate values, shiny new toys don’t matter
Since they added the t-80ue that will somewhat offset the us premium noobs problem since both sides will have them isn’t it lol
Those don’t exist, or at least afaik there isn’t any special form of ammunition that specifically defeats DU armor. HEAT worked well against normal RHA, but then ERA/NERA was created to combat that, and then APDS/APFSDS was adapted/upgraded to deal with those, and DU is just the incorporation of DU into NERA.
Sure, there are tank rounds IRL that penetrate probably any form of armor in existence, but in War Thunder they use a weird penetration formula that from what I can tell will hit a limit at some point (if the APFSDS penetrators don’t get considerably longer).
Regardless, having an extra 35% KE and 25% CE on the turret and then adding the turret’s level of armor to the hull will definitely make the Abrams better. If you want a basic rundown of the hulls (and why the in-game M1A1HC and M1A2s have incorrect armor), here’s a timeline I did: M1A2 series...turret armor - #9 by SpeclistMain1
You’d think so but because the T-80UE hasn’t gone on sale at all yet, there are still vastly more Clickbaits.
Meanwhile I think this is the 2nd or 3rd Clickabit 50% sale.
When I mentioned it better shells I meant just you know better shells not shells that are specifically made to go against do armor and second of all I’m sorry but NATO tanks are not meant to have equal whole armour as a turret armor because the studies They did showd that the majority of area that would get hit on their tanks is The Turret and that’s where they emphasise the armor plus their Tactics of preference to fight in a hold down position
That’s just wrong, did you even look at the timeline I posted? Also, if that’s the case, why do the 122B+/2A7s have such good hull armor?
Well first of all I’m not I’m still reading and second of all the Swedish the leopards have different type of armour because of the doctrine of that country
You mean because of Gaijin’s disdain for Germany.
I just want to clarify I don’t want state that it never had du armor I’m just saying What I Saw I’m a nerd for t72 I don’t really know much about the Abrams I’m saying from all the pictures and from people that I’ve talked to it doesn’t look that whole armour is equal to turret armour and again from previously mentioned studies where they saw that majority of the rounds that did impact their tanks was in the turret and I came to conclusion that if they did reinforce the armor they probably emphasise the turret as the place where it got hit the most
clearly you do not own one.
This kind of insecure, attention seeking statement tells us only who you are.
They are not easy to keep alive and are not like the Strella with auto-tracked ordinance.
