[ DEV Server ] F16 blk 52 discussion thread

Sorry, Gaijin can’t accept that. That’s a clear marketing propaganda lie and the SLAM has no Data Link receiver. Need a better Primary Source for proof.

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Honestly I wouldn’t put this past them yeah, I guess we will find out the day they finally add this thing.

I have to say it is funny that F16I already has the 360° RWR, at this pace the F16 PoBit is a worse F16I at a higher BR. F16 PoBit: AESA, 120D, 90CMs, no 360° RWR, K-Band
Sufa: 240 CMs, Good mechanical radar, 120C-5 (same as the D because reasons), 360° RWR,no K-Band, actually good CAS ordnance with potential to improve (whenever they stop artificially limiting it to 8 spice 250s for no reason), MAWs without having to give up missiles, cooler looking due to CFTs.

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Lmao. For 14.0 in this meta? Yeah I disagree pretty hard.

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Also PAWS gives full missile launch warning coverage

I don’t know if this happened after the update today or if it was already like this before, but it seems like taking the MAW pylon on the new F-16CM kind of breaks your other countermeasures.

Normal loadout

MAW pylon loadout

I don’t know if it’s intentional or not, but when you have the MAW pylons equiped you lose the ability to have chaff in your 60 normal countermeasures. It’ll be either flares or nothing.

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ah yes, the “fake” missile that has been test fired almost 4 years ago

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Yeah comparing it to the kh38mt is a bit… odd.

this is the same person who constantly lies about their being no improvements to solid rocket motors in the last 30 years

they just dont know what they are talking about at all

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that nobody bought (everybody ordering is specifically ordering old JAGM even now) and nobody seen outside of lockheed martin promotional material.

I’m tired of this bias because its US company claiming everybody is giving them EXTREME benefit of the doubt, while missile that has everything but seeker is flying everyday is somehow less real.

except people probably have

because it is categorized as a variant of JAGM, sales that say “JAGM” can include JAGM-MR

show me any reliable sources for a test firing or actual firing of a KH-38MT

you cant because the missile doesnt exist, where above I was able to easily show reliable sources for multiple test firings of JAGM-MR that include both mentions of its seeker capabilities as well as its range

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Are you gonna keep sending me LLM result of “improvement” being they put more of the same propellant or some research paper about something we can’t synthesize enough of to even do any measurements and call that mass efficiency improvement?

Thats not how it works, these are public purchases and you’re giving some extreme benefit of a doubt

Which again is you giving benefit of a doubt to Lockheed martin that you are not giving to a russian company

I can’t believe you dont notice the extreme double standard

are you going to keep lying about their being no improvement despite lots of documentation of said improvement? because that is what it is, your statements are outright and provably false.

no that very much is how it works, unless the sale specifies what variant, it could be any or more likely is a mix of multiple variants

so lets see, thats a no, you have been unable to find any sources about KH-38MT being tested

the russian companies havent even claimed to test fire it

and LM has much stricter laws around what they claim, as well as any test like that will have outside observers from the army or other parties, so they cant outright lie in their statements

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The ones you sent me: LLM output of improvement in solid rocket motor by… adding more fuel and paper about speculative technology in 50 years. No there hasn’t been we got the fuel we had developed during the 80s and tweaked for things like safety and stability since.

You’re debating with a person who claimed F-15C didn’t have HMD in real life and said it should be removed.

If I was you I wouldn’t waste my time with him.

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true, with how outright false all of their other claims have been, I guess I shouldnt bother replying to their continued lies

Exactly, some people aren’t worth for debating.

To be fair he might just be talking about some super early modification of the plane.
After all, f-15cs when they first got amraam they didnt have hmd

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That is such a silly misrepresentation.

The truth is it didnt until almost very late 2000s and our configuration in game didnt make sense?

The one distinguishing thing (US completely ignoring technology for 30 years) was abandoned in service of “technical capability”

No he was claiming that during service time F-15C never had HMD’s which was wrong to begin with.

Then after he got debunked he claimed that current version shouldn’t have HMD while in reality it was MSIP version that had upgraded avionic thus allowed to use Fox-3 missiles and HMD.

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