[ DEV Server ] F16 blk 52 discussion thread

I wonder if they are going to modify the AN/APG-83, currently half of its values just straight up look copy pasted from the APG-79. From what I am reading the theorised performance should be closer to the APG-77 or APG-81, just with less TRM modules.

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Pretty sure that the APG-83 is similar to the -80(F-16E / -F), but is thermally limited so can’t get all of its performance.

At least if you trust

I have seen this paper, but I don’t know how accurate it is. For their range detection calculations they used arbitrary values using an AESA radar calculator, yet their points about the cooling capacity of the F16 still stand, together with the possible number of TRMs at 1020 and predicted GaAs efficiency. I am more concerned about the values that were straight up copy-pasted from the APG-79.

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Did it get its 360 degree coverage as well?

Nope.

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maybe they’re still pending

I did the report on the 360 coverage and adding the K band in the same report so I figured if they added the K band it would have come at the same time

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Sometimes they require seperate reports for each feature.

Try to contact with mod to ask if it needs seperate report for it.

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I mean they are?

The one thing that US is lacking is no speed limit laser bomb and its not gonna get one, because it already has all the stand-in weapons and stand off weapons are all purely GPS ordinance or maybe terminal sensor that wouldnt do anything in warthunder unless the target is stationary

JSOW-C, Stormbreaker, Later variants of the AGM-130, AGM-84K SLAM-ER. All these weapons have IR seekers and standoff range. Not to mention LJDAM kits for the rest of the MK 80 series bombs or Laser SDB I. Better variants of the AGM-65 like the H or K would be welcome. JAGM can be mounted to fixed wing aircraft as well, and there are a ton of prototype weapons that could be added too.

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do i smell a F15E buff ?

the engine buff is a mistake
it is arcade mode

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btw is PW229 underperforming or overperforming rn?

People using laser guided bombs are probably the easiest kills at top tier when I play AA.

Even easier kills than the people who use dumb ordenance.

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JSOW-C seeker is for anti ship
Stormbreaker yeah i forgot
AGM-130 we already have in game and there isnt differennce between TV and IR unless you count people using engine smoke LOL
SLAM doesnt have specific IR seeker it would be just GPS for in game purposes
JAGM is laser or radar (and we’re not getting radar)
AGM-65H is already in game

People who dont understand how to actually use laser ordinance and flying in straight line? You know nothing jon snow

Would help counter LDIRCM helicopters, like the Brimstone does

Not on American aircraft

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99% of the people who use laser guided weaponry, besides the brimstones and maybe Kh38ML, are easy kills.

They have to go below mach 1 to drop, the bombs are generally slow and really easy to shoot down and they become a free kill when they have to expose themselfs to guide their weaponry in.

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Woah woah not the goat PAVEWAY IV (That is its only positive vs the other bombs)

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Thats because 99% of players are easy kills. Laser ordinance iog ordinance is the only consistent way to engage all targets who are not brain AFK

They dont have to expose themselves, thats what you get to much much easier with IOG.

And other laser bombs like hammer and paveway 4 dont have speed limits

What are you talking about, the only consistent way to engage all targets with minimal risk is IR/TV FnF ordnance.

You literally do have to expose yourself, you need input laser guidance if your target is moving, that requires you to fly up and point a laser at them and your TGP has severe coverage limitations which limit your maneuverability hence why everyone was telling you that it makes you an easy target.

Both SLAM and SLAM-ER have an IR seeker. SLAM literally uses a Mav seeker.

JAGM is currently implemented as an IR missile because Gaijin has some weird excuses as to why MMW radars cannot be implemented, so I don’t see why it couldn’t receive the same treatment for fixed wing implementations.