ever seen a premium tank nerfed? Me neither. Especially when they sell like hot cakes. If T58 was a tech tree then it would be up tiered or receive a nerf already, but nooooo “our stat shows that the tank is doing really bad” or something
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The round that it uses is anything but “poor ammunition” bro. It can easily one shot nearly all tank it faces.
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Uh yes, like as I said, the other us oscillating tank(t54e1) gun nerfed its reload. Please read and think before making accusations that I didn’t say.
Its still amazing
That’s kind of the point. The thing has a HESH shell that can literally overpressure other heavy tanks by hitting the ground next to their track. Nothing in a 7.3 downtier can even dream of penning anywhere on the turret of this thing. And that’s assuming you get to fire first. The T58 right now is basically a free guaranteed kill for the user given they don’t drive out into the open or try shooting while moving top speed. If you have an IQ above 80 its pretty easy to get 6 kills, one for every round in the autoloader. I had one of these camp my spawn in a 8.0 match and it was impossible to kill. Pushing it was instant death, and anytime anyone tried to outflank it they’d get their cupola obliterated or would get counter-flanked by it, because its armor is practically invincible except for the very bottom of the hull (which only 7.7+ tanks with HEAT or good solid shot can go through).
Make this thing 8.7, I’m tired of seeing 5 of them on an American team just steamroll everyone every match. Its a completely braindead tank that makes the (also 8.3) Turm III look like a vehicle that needs skill. Like seriously, who at Gaijin thought this was an acceptable tank for this battle-rating? 16kg of explosive mass HESH shell with a 2.6 second reload at 8.3 with the M103 hull and 4 times the turret armor??? You can’t even pen the turret cheeks with 10.0 APFSDS, and the turret ring just outright eats them with no damage. And its currently at the tier where most countries just barely started getting stabilizers, let alone a decent APDS shell. Yeah, makes perfect sense. Turret cheeks with 500mm of effective armor against chemical rounds and 600mm against solid rounds makes total sense at 8.3 with a cannon 50mm larger than the Turm III and half the reload speed.
Like, hello? Is this really that crazy to point out? Its not just an “oh on paper its good, but in practice it’s balanced” kinda deal either. Like I said, I’ve only seen these things go down when they overextend and get 5 people shooting them all at once, or they run out of ammo after effortlessly killing 5 or 6 people. This thing is incredibly undertiered and it leaves a bad taste in the mouth of everyone I know, me included. This thing could be moved up to 9.0 and still perform well at its intended role of hull-down sniping or inner-city brawling.
They nerfed the T58s HESH by a mile, can’t kill anything now
Think all hesh is pretty broken again rn. was using it and APDS on my Type 74 and cheiftains n it did bugger all
no they def nerfed it. a REGULAR T44. NORMAL ONE. survved 7 DIRECT SHELLS of hesh with NO dmage but to modules even on its roof and upper hull overpressure he spoits
Another premium nerfed to oblivision because ppl crying seems to me Gaijin is unable to proper balance premiums before they sell them T58 at 8.7 br is just rediculous .
Weak armor before for heavy now is not exist
Vs tanks with APFSDS even light tanks
Vs Thermals and Laser Range finders
Vs Explosive reactive armor
Another Cash Grab from Gaijin seems to me whatever you buy to support this game need to be nerfed to oblivision so they can sell somthing else.
Yeah definetly weak , and certainly over BR…
Or not, ther is a reason why this thing needs to go up in br.
Just for reference, what is kept most broken tank in game and stats from it on last month.
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The T58 still has a near 2.0kd? Lol that thing is truly mental.
But it is not broken, it is just fine since it is not russian, so some certain people who cry so loud about russian bias are quiet from those western broken tanks / missiles what are in game.
Yes, I do mean some unnamed french main who I bet keeps somua balanced vehicle also.
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Explain what you talking about.
how about explain what you didnt get in that post?
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Seriusly dude stop whining about T58 if the Rus and China have broken Tanks ,props,Jets and Navy
Rus Auto loader - Fantazy
Missile for Rus and China - Fantazy
Jets and Props both nation Flying Characteristic pure fantazy
Tanks Kontact Era 5 + Vulometric making the Tanks Op yes
China get LRF with medium tanks as first nation - just lol not to mention APDS-FS
China Composit armor seems too OP for it,s BR wird not realy we all know the Markiet for Rus and China is huge
Props 7.62 mm ShKAS working better that 20mm and 30mm cannons
With recent nerf of 12.7mm for Jap and Italy and yes US too Rus props are one of the best overall
Wird 11 years we was waiting for Broken T-34s to go in BR because stupid APHE overperform and go thou Tracks ammo in question BR-365 yes still bugged
How about we write more
But ofc t58 is the problem becuse of Autoloader this same go for Samoa they need to go up becuse the autoloader but no one cry about Obj 906 with 4 sec reload APHE and bunch of others that now just are OP at the BR they play
What else to say cramped interior in Tank work like Armor in game because spaling stop at dmg moduls giving Rus and China incredible survivability
French Autoloaders mostly shoot Solid Shot and if have APHE need to ovetiered as hell because ppl crying with 0 consideration they can’t pen T-54 up front
0 armor 0 survivability vs tanks that can be pen with 12.7 mm machine gun because ofc Rus and China have AP-I (c) with can pen every light tank and Track of the enemy , yes even Turm III can be penetrated up front with it.
Gaijin should really reconsider proper balance not fantazy and if the problems with autoloaders are so great stop puting them in the game becuase overtiering and Nerfing them is not the way, punishing people because they buy them.
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Right, let us clear something up.
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1 if you want to be taken seriously then you should be spelling correctly not “fantazy”.
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2Missiles for Russia and china? like what? If you say KH38 then I suggest you look at japan as well as they also have them.
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3 every single jet and prop in game has over performing jets and props due to how the game is modelled bar in simulator mode.
- 1 Kontact 5 while being off mark compared to IRL it is in fact not too far off the mark.
- 2 the MBTs for russia are piss mate, the problem comes from the fact they get stupidly strong CAS and SPAA to facilitate that CAS.
chinese composites , and I quote “seem” too Op for their BR?
What BR is that mate?
Also you do realise the Chinese Composites in game are under performing lol there are bug reports on it.
Also what is a Markiet?
Sorry but those 7.62s do nothing when I use em,
Also what recent nerf to the 12.7s? you mean the fantasy, as you say, stupidly long belts so you could fire forever basically xD
Wierd. Not wird. Also that literally happens with every tank mate, I had last night a CR2 shoot a dart into my track that then bounced somehow into my crew compartment nuking my merkava, how does that work.
It doesn’t, the game engine can’t keep up with everything going on.
T58 literally destroyed its BR bracket that’s why it went up and possibly could go up further.
Samua is extremely strong for its BR and it is very likely to move up soon.
They get an APFSDS which is worse than the APDS that is found at the same BR.
What’s the issue lol? have you ever actually played these vehicles or at these BRs cause statshark shows your name as having played only Air.
obj 906 has been moved up a few times as well as that a lot of people still say it should be moved up further it’s only drawback is lack of APDS / Darts for it to go up to 8.3 or higher.
Russian and chinese tanks literally have the oppositve of incredible survivability mate.
What?
French tanks have proven time and time again they are strong as hell with their auto loaders lol .
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1 what tank has 0 armour 0 survivability. Your statement would mean that russian tanks have no armour or survivability.
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2 the turm 3 cannot be penetrated with the HMG off of the Russian or Chinese tanks, bar the 14.5MM machine gun which is very handy.
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3 it is extremely conviently you bring up the turms III to say something is over powered when at it’s respective BR the turm III is pretty much unstoppable if anyone with half a brain plays it.
30mm auto cannon firing high penning ammo, 5 second auto loader for APDS, HEATFS and whatever elsethey choose to bring,. Extremely good mobility, Fully stabilised.
It’s only drawback is it isn’t heavily armoured, but germany at 8.0 area isn’t so what.
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The intentions of this thread truly aged like milk. Stinky.
Shall we talk about fantasy loader?
Every tank without autoloader in this game is pure fantasy tbh.
And it includes soviets also, because it is just normal that No matter how fast, or how you drive a tank and those supermans load shell all the time.
Most broken props? Hell nah, only broken prop is yak 9 and using it on grb.
Top tier jet is only carried by r77-1, not by airframe.
Mica still slaps harder in 20km range compared To any fox 3
What recent 50cal nerf?
906 is a pure glass cannon just like spruts.
Broken navy? Yeah 2 broken vessels Leningrad and sovetsky.
And even somua having only solid shots it is still busted in that br.
And yes, only issue on t58 is same as in terminator, armor profile is like a blackhole, and it is just normal to have kd of 2 in a balanced tank on global stats right?
But you are proving one of this posts points like a textbook example, if there is bias it is only russian and nothing else what is unbalanced cant be event talked about. Carry on.
Your one to talk
Atlease you can disable the T58’s gun, whereas the BMPT you cannot.