imo F-14 straight to 12.7 would be fine and keep EJ kai at 12.7 too
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I would like to request that the F-4C and F-4EJ’s do not go up on BR or only go up .3. They are cool planes that not fun to fly because they are outclassed by planes even below their BR’s.
I feel that both F-4EJ(Techtree and premium) should remain at 11.0, they are clearly worse than F-4E and Kurnass, lacking the AIM-7E-2, Agile eagle and Guided ground attack ordinance, there is no reason for a clearly worse version to be the same Br as a direct upgrade.
Edit: Also EJkai being above in Br than F-14A is just a no-no, F-14A trades having All aspect missiles for sheer flight performance, Ejkai is the same exact plane as the 11.0 Ej with a better radar, has the same SARH missile as the 14A(the 7F) and with 9L’s instead of 9H, F-14A is plain superior in flight performance, has a way stronger radar and also has access to the AIM-54A.
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I’m just saying, Just one week, increase F-14’s BR by 0.7 or so and take survey players like it or not. I BET most players would happy about that
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They are. 11.3 = 10.7 in this decompression scheme.
So F-4E and EJ are actually going “down” in relative BR to F-16 and Mig-29.
F-1CT may have a digital RWR, but it loses missiles and a gun. Compared to the normal
The point is that F-4EJ is a literal downgrade from F-4E and makes no sense putting at same Br, is the equivalent of putting F-5C and F-5E together at same Br.
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I’d MUCH rather have the digital RWR than a garbage missile or a gun that I’m still going to have.
Definitely disappointed about the BR change after looking at the BR chart, I thought this was to completely seperate aircrafts with Fox3 and ones without Fox3 but many non Fox 3 aircrafts will still definitely face them such as the F-16A, mirage 4000, F-15J, and the mig-29(earlier variants). But I’m definitely welcoming the changes made to stock missiles
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The F-4EJ Kai going up an entire BR step is INSANE. PLEASE do not take it farther than 12.3 honestly. 12.0 would fit it well (better radar than an F-4J/S but worse agility). It is NOT better than an F-14A and not equal to an F-14B
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I will just skip some of the popular topics since many people are mentioning them like the f4c f4f and f104 problem. Following are thoughts based on what I have played and experienced.
- J7E and J8B should receive their pl8 since other planes around same br has all aspect missiles like r60m and 9L
- J8F should receive its pl8b since every other planes in that br has ir missile with irccm like 9m r73 and magic2 (if not, plz move down br since compare to av8b with 4 AIM120s and 2 9m).
- J35xs should remain 10.7 or only up to 11.0, its flight perfoemance is completely trash right now and without rwr and only 12 cm, it does not fit 11.3 for sure.
- Why are different F16As with 9L and 9M at same br?
- J11A should not stay at top br with the worst radar, rwr, and data link of only 1 target, also with the worst flight performance, it is horriable to play it. Or you can give it the pl12 which it can take in reality and change the radar to N0001VE. Besides, Su 27 and J11 without Fox3s should go down in BR, planes without fox3s does not fit top tiers anymore, it is almost unplayable right now.
- Why is mirage 2000D with only 2 magic2s at the same br with mirage 2000 cs4/5 with two more radar missiles also better flight performance.
- Why is Chinese F5A higher br than F5A and F5C in the US tech tree. Also F5A with 2 9ps same br with f5e fcu with python 3s and 9Ls? This is funny.
- Why is mirage f1ct higher br than the other mirage f1.
- JH7A should not be 12.3 as same as mirage 2000 cs4/5, also even higher than the JA37D. Look at 12.3 who else does not have radar missiles? Or you can give JH7A the pl12 which there are a lot of images prove it can take, and bring it up to 12.7 or 13.0. Again 2 all aspect missiles and 2 rear aspect missiles with a heavy plane that could only go a little beyond mach 1 does not deserve 12.3.
- It could be even better decompress to 14.0 or even 14.3 to avoid more problems, besides, gaijin can you please decompress the ground rb as well.
From above we can clearly see that Gaijin make their changes based on the “big data (win rate)”, it is obvious that people playing the attacker version of certain planes like f1ct, 2000d and JH7a are relatively experienced so that those planes will have higher winrate, and that is not how you should do tha balance changes by only looking their win rate. Do not be lazy, go play the game and know the planes.
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So the british phantoms are going to be 13.0 while the tornado will be 12.7? This is just plain stupid.
When this is fixed, atleast make the f4 junk .3 br lower than the other british phantoms, it is objectively worse than those two, this should be the chance for it.
Moving the F-105D is completely unnecessary. It is a worse F-104 in terms of being a fighter and lacks flares too. It can bomb and that’s it. Leave it at 10.0.
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My brother in Christ the A-7D got buffed.
Everything was SUPPOSED to go up .7, it went up .3
Please for the love of god leave the F-4C at 10.3 instead of 10.7. The damn thing is NOT equal to a MiG-21SMT. It has NO FLARES. Could even do with not being touched at all and left at 10.0.
Why the hell is the A-7D and A-7E going up from 10.0 to 10.3 and 10.3 to 10.7? In comparison the AV-8C at 9.7 does everything these jets do but better except for being able to carry lots of ground ordnance which doesn’t matter in Air RB.
The A-7 series of aircraft are the second slowest aircraft at this BR slightly faster than the A-10A but at least the A-10A has a BIG GUN, can actually turn fight, and has 2-4 all aspect missiles. These aircraft only sit at this BR of 10.3-10.7 right now because of its performance in GRB but now that we have separated BRs there’s no excuse for these aircraft to sit at their current BR of 10.3/7. A BR of 9.3 or 9.7 would suit these aircraft much better. Also not to mention the joke that is the A-7K at 11.0 which will go up to 11.3 with these planned BR changes. Ridiculous
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I think they messed up the table, don’t trust them. They copy past without checking the sim rotation, no reason they did not messed up BR. They just drag and drop BR for planes, without checking. check the f16Aj being the only one in 12.7 when all other f16 are in 13.0. or 11.7 all going to 12.3 except the F4EJ kai being 12.7 wich is the BR of the next 5+ planes. For transition between BR serie, they might have fucked up the table
The Chinese F-5A has AIM-9P’s while US F-5A/C has only AIM-9E’s
Aparently people said is cause it have a better RWR which i think is dumb unless gaijin is planning to finally give it his AS-30L and AM-39 exocet missiles then would be a valid change
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I’d like to see that
What can I say but: THANK YOU GAIJIN