with how bad it is it may go down in br lmao (edit) I thought it was a joke wtf its gonna be 10.7?!
the F-4C does NOT need to move up two BR steps to 10.7. Keep it at 10.3 if anything
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BR decompression is a good thing, but Gaijin has many problems with RB adjustments:
Hunter F58: the best subsonic fighter, with AIM9Js and flares, but 9.7 BR.
Mirage F1CT/Mirage 2000D: weapons are far inferior to Mirage 2000CS5, but with the same BR, the advanced vehicle Mirage F1C 200 has the same weapons as Mirage F1CT, but F1C 200has lower BR.
F16AJ: although slightly better than other F16s without AIM9M, the BR is 0.7 lower, the same weight as F4EJ kai.
J7D and J7E have the same weight, the combat effectiveness of J35XS is far inferior to J7E but it is also at 11.3 BR.
Tornado IDS only has two AIM9Ls, but it has the same BR as Tornado ADV
China-US F5E and Thai F5E have the same weight, even though Thai F5E has better missiles and more.
F4C lacks any flare, but it has to compete with the more powerful American F8E
Both are poor attack aircraft, A7K only has two AIM9Ls, but it has to compete with Su25T with R73 and Jaguar IS with Magic 2.
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Why does F104C and F104A has to stay 9.3? Its so stupid that F104G gets +2.0 BR only because having better missiles and 60 flares. I think that decompression is good, but decompression should mean extending the top BR, not just moving up every plane. After all, F104C is much more toxic fighting against 8.3 planes, than F104G fighting 9.7
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@Stona_WT Please just limit the max up-tier/down-tier to 0.7 instead of 1.0. This will fix a lot of problems like 3rd Gen aircraft with subpar missiles/RWR/Radar going against planes like F-15, Gripen A, Mirage 4K with excellent RWR, Radar and IRCCM Missiles.
The whole reason behind asking for decompression is to avoid match-up of aircraft with vast difference in arsenal capability, not just BR increase (The proposed list has lots of misunderstood changes. Tomcats can still bully 3rd gen planes, F-4EJ Kai, a slat-less phantom is same BR as F-16AJ, etc.).
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The auto radar mode almost never uses the MTI Track so all locks easily gets 1 chaffed
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All good changes.
Thank you for decompressing 9.0 entirely.
My complaints:
Why is Yak-141 the same BR as Mig-29?
Why is F-16A the same BR as F-15s?
Why is Mirage 2000C the same BR as Mirage F-1CT when Mirage 2000C should be higher?
No other complains. The BRs look astonishingly good. Perfect changes I dare say, feedback listened to.
11.3 is a relative BR reduction of 0.7.
Currently IDS is 1.0 away from F-16; After this change they are 1.7 away from F-16.
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The MiG-23s only have MTI in a dive
I believe there should be a greater br difference between something like an F-15C and an F-4F ICE. A 0.3 difference is not big enough for such difference in performance. And for sim battles it should be even greater considering it does not have a HUD, HMD or smokeless ir missiles…
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But still have it, better than nothing
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No 9Ls WERE (PAST TENSE) a problem because they had IRCM and acted like 9Ms when they were 1st added.
they dont have ANY ircm anymore and now have Teammate/random stupid object seeking technology built into them. Even an IR Strobe will throw off the 9L which isnt realistic, cuz the actual 9L was immune to those and did have gen 1 IRCM irl.
Also frankly at 10.0 you should start seeing all aspect basic missiles without IRCM. R60Ms are at the same BR and are objectively better than 9Ls even if it says they arent on paper.
i also said they should lower the BR spread from 1.0 to 0.7 meaning the lowest a 10.0 A10 could see is 9.3 and some 8.7s have flares, or just fire rockets cuz again they no longer have IRCM and havent for about a year or 2 now.
I see you people complain about stuff you have no clue about and all i can think is Skill issue FR.
9Ls of today are trash they are NOT like when they were 1st added, get over your trauma.
I see constantly Max Up BRs no matter what i play, idk about you guys. in addition to this, even with full down tiers rare as they are, the majority of actual fighters will seal club A10s and A6s because the retain energy better, are faster, and all they have to do is just try to fight them in the vertical, they will win every time. I dare you to Ask me how i know this. I have ZERO issue killing A10s, SUs, or A6s with my 9.0-9.3 jets, and when i play my A10s etc, im stuck in constant 10.7s and 11.0s im sick of it.
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No, matchmaker should not be compressed.
Decompression is superior to that game-destroying nonsense.
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Both of them must have smokeless amraams, that might help in this situation(maybe?).
This is already a good step, but its definately not enough, the maximum battle rating really needs to go higher if we want actual decompression
You see, the tech tree one isn’t premium or event so its gotta be higher in BR. (laser-guideds are scary dont-cha know) :P
In all seriousness its dumb as fuck that it makes any difference in Air RB. I suspect they are 'stat balancing them or just plain lazy.
More looks like they forget about it
Marinflieger even more dangerous, than standart ids
Sometimes ASM can kill plane, but thats not reason i think.
And which difference it have from standart n0001? Except of ability to fire R-77
The fact that the N001 couldn’t fire the R-77?
Gaijin claims that a plant in Belarus tweaked the FCS of the N001 for it to have the ability to fire the R-77, the reason I don’t believe it and I’m more inclined to believe the N001VE was fitted instead was because the N001VEP was already in use by Chinese vehicles and the fact that the plant refused to acknowledge any assistance.
Many other secondary sources also claim that the N001VE was fitted in J-11As anyways so by a general look of things it would only make sense.
Prove that
Each grid on the R-77 is treated as independent fins which create addition drag causing it to lose significant amount of speed whilst engaging manoeuvring targets. For non-manoeuvring targets its range is correct however.
Because F-15C underperforms in game affects japan, usa, israel, also 3, but countries
Ah yes, the F-15C which clearly suffers in this meta must take priority over the SU-27SM and the J-11A shouldn’t it?
So, need to be imagination, same as YaK-141?
Same could be said for the J-11A currently in-game, it lacks a full glass cockpit, it lacks MFDs and it lacks full Chinese translations.
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Very nice and all, these are good changes don’t get me wrong. But when are you going to decompress ground vehicles? They are still at 11.7 and are now 2 whole BR’s lower then the planes.
I thought it was to quiet, didn’t realise they released this.
But yea if aircraft that has no flares but yet to powerful at that BR there are to ways to do things.
Remove the powerful misses or remove the aircraft all together.
Yeah, never assign malice what can be attributed to incompetence ig lol