The F-4F Early going from 10.3 to 11.0 is crazy too lol. Same for the F-4EJ Kai going to 12.7 instead of 12.3 like the F-14A is.
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its still decompression. 9.0-9.7 gets decompressed because everything 10.0+ goes up, and 10.3-11.0 gets decompressed because starting with 11.3, most things go up 2 BR steps.
Can we get R73’s or at least 4x 27ER/ET loadouts on the Yak-141 at this point please?
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Can we remove paper planes from game at this point?
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why in the gods name is the a10 lower br than the f4c
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I have to assume that some of the vehicles in here that are going up by two steps is a partial mistake since a lot of F-4s are going up two br steps despite being well balanced or kind of weak in the current brs. Especially the F-4C and F-4F Early (which being 11.0 would make it the same br as the F-4F that has countermeasures). Also F-104 for Italy should stay 10.7 or only go to 11.0 since it doesn’t get 4 missiles like the other F-104Gs that have flares. I believe some chaff needs to be stock too.
Also, would it be possible for 12.0 or 12.3 to be introduced for ground at a later time? Everything else seems great though, overall amazing changes.
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it goes up precisely because of the missiles, bc they’re still opressive against (the new) 11.7-12.0s even on a terrible plattform. Same reason why the J8F goes to 13.0, even though it only has 2 ARHs and is a terrible plattform at such a high BR.
please give aim120 to italian F16 ADF, it’s historical
here 2 reports with sources
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/6I8WjlU8ZkxO
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/6kbxvyxt2vKk
Why F-4EJkai rise BR 1.0 ?
It not balance with F-14B,Mig-29 and Yak-141
It must only rase 0.6
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it needs a CW illuminator, nothing to do with PD IIRC
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I thought we had seperate br’s for Air and Ground RB now, but it seems like you are still basing the ARB BR on ground strike capabilities:
But then the identical Tornados apart from the GROUND STRIKE ordnance are here
Do you see the issue?
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I’d guess it’s because the F-4’s can carry alot of radar missiles in comparison to their peers, which are alot stronger now with the multipathing nerf. Even the bad ones on the F-4C got more reliable for headons.
F-4F early already got corrected to 10.7.
F-4E have 6 of AGM-65b, and F-4E BR is lower than F-4F with only two AGM-65B.
I have no idea why ejk is equal to 14b and higher than 14a,can an aircraft with only semi-active projectiles be higher than an aircraft with active projectiles?And to be honest,14a need go to 13.0,and 14b need go to 13.3,they are to strong at that rank.If so, please add AAM-3 to ejk.
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you are aware that the Yak-41 existed right? as in fully built and capable of flight and carrying missiles
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If you’ve used the R-23R, it’s essentially the same
Su-39 had R-77 and R-27 irl but gaijin doesn’t give it that for some reason, same way Yak-141 is missing R-73 and R-77
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So now the F-4EJ KAI will be 12.7 at the same br as the F16A where the only thing the EJ KAI has going for it is the Aim-7Ms
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Well, something is better than nothing.
Some comments on the proposed BR changes for Air Realistic Battles:
- Mirage F1CT is not that much different in ARB to have BR different to other Mirage F1s.
- F-4C doesn’t have flares, move to 10.7 is too much for it, IMO better to leave it at 10.0.
- F-105D is not that good as a fighter and doesn’t have flares, leaving it at 10.0 will make it playable
- Jaguar E is the worst of Jaguars (it is the heaviest, have too much forward CG and has no RWR, leaving it at 10.3 will make its existence in game somewhat justified.
- AMX and AMX A-1A aren’t that much different to justify differnce in BR this high (10.7 and 11.3). I think both at 10.7 will be fine.
- F-104G (China) for whatever reason doesn’t have flares, moving it to 10.7 will make it unplayable
- The move of Sea Harrier FRS.1 and Saab J35XS → to 11.3… You sure about that?
- Ground pounding Tornados are all the same in ARB, why different BRs?
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