Rightnow the CS/SA5 is the more complete sam system out of the ones added in this update, the fact the It lacks apds and programmed munition Is more of a minor nerf, an incovinience, a bit unjust, but still nothing to lament and the disadvantage of the missing elevation can be negated by the use of the radar so on eveything counted there’s nota lot to complain on It, on the Z-10 you are right, having an RWR called SAR is a bit laughable, but still, it’s a digital RWR with pretty much every band -D,C, needs a fixing but it’s not awfull like an SPO-15 .
Theres are like thousends of bug reports in game that are labeled as accepted and are not going to get fixed so maybe we should firstly pay attention to those old reports.
Would suggest linking bug reports for aforementioned issues so that people can bump them and make them more visible to devs :)
Subject to change.
Are you sure? Are you in the top room, holding a missile launcher with a maximum elevation angle of only 20 degrees to compete with top fighters? The launch stand of this SPAA does not need to be modified? Do you think this is reasonable? Oh my God…
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We all know that there are a lot of old bug reports, but this is a version update, so what’s the point of updating if you don’t even want to improve the new vehicles? A lot of old problems can be fixed a long time ago, but for some reason (I don’t want to be honest, but everyone knows it) hasn’t been fixed, and if a new vehicle doesn’t consider its rationality and just puts it on the live server, that’s the biggest problem!
Listen alt account, you either make a bug report on It or you discuss it on the dedicated thread, it’s not something new that warthunder doesnt fix eveything in each update, but don’t say that we need the CM-502 in game or that missing 5* of elevation Is ruining your experience (It has the wrong model so probably going to get fixed)
This is their reply on the missing ammo types
Bug Reporting Manager #2
commented
a day ago
What you see on a video is CS/SA5 with different gun. It’s a different vehicle.
None of the sources says that in-game modification (30-mm short gun) can use AHEAD shells.
Additionally, the developers said that they will not be adding shells based on assumptions. The video, for example, may show flashes of projectile self-destructors, which may look like AHEAD.
and missing elevation.
The CA/SA5 missile is in the wrong position // Gaijin.net // Issues
Bumped.
LMAO…
Re-translate. I, Gaijin, know the performance of their products better than the weapon manufacturers that produce them. There can’t be any mistakes. Even if there are, it’s for balance “so on eveything counted there’s not a lot to complain on It” In the meantime, I need 100aud from your wallet to buy this shiny new gaijin-flavored vehicle to ensure you have enough resources to continue playing.
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Another alt-account ? Why? And for me they should give their sources on changes made into the game.
What’s the point?
When they need it, they’ll dig out a copy from the countless dusty posts to prove it. When they don’t need it, they never care. they have all kinds of excuses.
We are more professional than weapons manufacturers
To be fair with the picture you linked, im also confused as to what “IR stare” or “update command” mean.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/5swhcpLXnTSH
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/p28mgBLzAMJl
So the update command is sort of man in the loop thing?
Still not sure about IR stare tho.
For more questions, you can move to the Chinese section. I will not reply or post any more… The management will not tolerate any criticism in the non-Chinese section.
Update command: It refers to the fact that after the missile is launched, the vehicle carrying it will send instructions to the missile to fly towards new coordinate points based on the updated target position from the radar until the infrared seeker of the missile locks onto the target.
Infrared staring: It refers to the missile’s infrared seeker using a high-resolution thermal imaging sensor as the sensor and employing image recognition to lock onto the target. Therefore, it is less susceptible to the influence of flares.
In the game you can consider as ir missiles with data link and more advanced irccm.
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Thank you!
Honestly, while those guidance methods are probably different by a quite bit IRL, they sound rather similiar to how SLM is going to be implemented in-game.
Does the current devserver version of CS/SA5 follow the same suit or are they modeled as usual IR F&Fs?
Currently, only the FB-10 (IR Staring Only) is available for test drives in the test server, so there is no clear evidence yet to show what the final version of the FB-10A (Update Command + IR Staring) missile will look like. However, from the dev blog and all the issues rejected by Gaijin, it can be seen that Gaijin tends to directly make it into a regular F&F infrared missile.
i mean MAYBE if china didnt have the gun + regular F&F IRs vehicle already, it could get a pass.
But with the PGZ04A already in the TT…
If they don’t want to implement a new mechanism, they can release this cheaper version for the PLA’s own use (as can be seen from the video , it is equipped with the existing HY-6 missile in the game), instead of this CSSA5 which is an more advanced export version.
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