Guess what same br as EF
atleast we get AESA?
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Despite this however, the Rafale has just 2 missiles for short range engagements — already well-known to French pilots, the Matra R550 Magic 2. Another unique aspect is in the Rafale’s countermeasure loadout — it only has 32 large caliber countermeasures, but additionally a large amount of chaff! Because of this, plus only having ARH missiles, the Rafale is best used to fire missiles at long ranges, avoid getting into short range engagements if possible.
besides the normal nonsense from devblogs
ONCE AGAIN NO MENTION OR F3R or AESA
im gonna laugh if im gonna be proven right
Magic 2 are not missing, they are mentioned in the devblog of the rafale
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Hi @Smin1080p_WT.
I was wondering if we could see a 72 flare loadout for the Rafale.
Currently the model uses the 32 large flares (which is a valid loadout), which is quite limiting even with the individual pop.
Is there any possibility that it could be replaced with the 72 normal flares model, which has been reported/suggested - or even better - that both option are made available through a new modification ?
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To tell the truth, I don’t see why everyone is complaining about the speed and the quantity of missiles, French planes have always been below other nations in terms of quantity of missiles, the same for speed/acceleration, if the radar is modeled correctly the plane will be largely competent.
The only downside that I see for the moment and which could really impact the performances of the plane is the lack of airbrake
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Frankly, I would rather we keep the 32 large flares if we can’t have the 72 as a mod.
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Devs told us it was F3R in one of the report. Don’t worry, you’ll get your AESA. It’s probably just not ready yet so it was not mentioned in the devblog to stay truthful on its future capabilities
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prolly because m2k 5f is still enough for top tier, has more cm, and missiles, rn rafale looks like more of a sidegrade (atleast to me) then a upgrade ngl.
Currently they are still missing on dev blog so it doesnt mean anything until i see those missiles on my rafale.
Mirage 2000 was pretty fast, at ground hugging one of the fastest if not the fastest
Same vibe as the F-15A being lower than the Su-27 because it didn’t have a HMS, but the Mirage 4000 was not extended the benefit…
Let’s just cope that they’ll fix the MICA and it’ll turn out alright…
The Rafale is a modern aircraft that relies more on its internal equipment than on its missiles, IRL the ECM and other systems allow it to be at the level of other aircraft. In game as this equipment is not modeled, the aircraft will be in a delicate position.
I think above all that many people have made up their minds about the real capabilities of the aircraft and that is why many people are disappointed
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Yes it is fast, but it seriously lacks acceleration compared to the planes it faces and (for the 2000C and D) does not have as much armament as its opponents, which does not prevent it from being an extremely competent plane.
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The 2000c is competent because it’s 12.3, thankfully it claps mig23 and F4
Appart from the braking using control surfaces any person that knows Rafale should have known all this was going to be normal.
Worth to note Rafale should have smart flares that are able to defeat even IIR missiles but it’s not a thing in game atm and should also have advanced directionnal jamming but doesn’t. CM count on Rafale is not abnormal as Rafale has the systems needed to not need as much. Typhoon was built by not having to 100% rely on it’s EW suite to fight so it’s only logical they plaanned to use more CMs.
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He is competent in facing planes that are for some faster, for some better armed, for others that accelerate more. French planes have always been like that, they are not the best in one category, on the other hand their versatility allows them to be at the same level as the others. And that will surely be the case with the Rafale.
i personally am not dissapointed about rafale capabilities, i knew how the plane will perform once it joins wt, and nothing has changed, my issue is the fact that irl rafale c f3r would be a straight up upgrade over mirage 2000-5F, even if we consider only war thunder capabilities, and thats because of the weaponary
Mirage 2000-5F got access to weaponary that it never fired under french service, it was made like that because 2000-9 of UAE could equip 2 magics together with 6 micas (afaik) and it equiped the pgm bomb series. we can even see the same happening to the Thai Alpha Jets, where the gunpod “capability” was never removed, so they got access to the gun in game, even tho the gun was never in thailand’s equipment.
i personally hoped for 8 micas on the in game rafale because as somebody mentioned, the indian f3r has the capability to carry 8.
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Edit : my bad y’all
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