Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Hey man good job on the bug reports, ur KILLING it!

Hope we get the real hud!!!

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To be fair the simple fact that we have a HMD on a Rafale F-3R shows that this is a mashup of variants, at best including only export ones, at worst including F4.1 too

Aight so the query I have for this is how have they come to the conclusion it shouldn’t function when we’ve got stuff like corsair that dedicates from memory all of the wing control surfaces as an airbreak when landing with majority of control coming from the tail stabilisers? From brief reading, Rafale’s canards seem to be more helpful in maintaining control whilst the flaps are used for slowing. Seems this really shouldn’t be an issue.

I might be completely misremembering tho.

Also couldn’t they just lock the rear flaps to a given deflection whilst it is set to airbreak and palm off some control to canards?

For the HMD, at least the French army pilots tried it from the first versions of the plane but it was decided not to keep it, while the external pylons were only put on the Rafales from 4.1

We always talk about the demonstrators. But how different are they from production aircrafts ?

But they didn’t try the Scorpion HMD. Further this requires modifications in the cockpit (reference points for the helmet) that aren’t present on any french aircraft before the F4.1s, so it’s impossible for a non modified french F3R to get the HMD

On a demonstrator you can do what you want, in particular put missiles on hardpoints that cannot fire them, the French army is a bit known for doing that because it sometimes presents planes at trade shows that have weapons that have no place on their hardpoints.

Honestly I don’t think the F-3R should get 8 MICAs. If they really wanted to add an aircraft with 8 Micas they could just rename it Rafale F4.1. That would fix the ahistorical HMD too, and appart from the AASM-1000, nothing else would change for the plane in game.

The HMDs they tried were the Scorpion and the Top Owl (as a reminder, the manufacturer is French), the Top Owl was not kept because it was judged to be unsatisfactory for the aircraft and the Scorpion, which was then in its first phase of production, was judged too heavy for the pilots.

I don’t think the TopOwl was ever tried, it’s a heli HMD not an Aircraft one. That was the TopSight by Sextant (now part of Safran)
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The TopOwl is adaptable for aircraft, it has also been tested on the Mirage 2000-5 and 2000-D RMV. But you are right the TopSight has also been tested

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Correct. French GoV confirmed F.4.1 added more MICA, not F.3R.

While the JHMCS is indeed from F.4 (considering its Scorpion and not TopOwl), TopOwl or TopSight were tested on previous Rafale’s, same case with M2K-5F iirc.

The C101 testbed (previously known as C01, which to my knowledge also lacks a significant amount of avionics, which can also be clearly seen on the pictures) doesn’t have a lot in common with production ones.

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We have Magic + 6x MICA on the 5F thanks to the Greek mirages
If you want to disqualify export variants that’s on you

Don’t see the value of dying on this hill just for ideological purposes that are meaningless in a videogame like war thunder

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THIS is cool AF Supercruise with 3 GBU24 + 4 MICA at sea level with 70% fuel.
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i think the HUD is a little messed up

They put the Tiger HUD as HUD for now but the correct HUD should be coming

Does the map marking system let you salvo AASM from >30km away? Currently can’t get >20km with target designation from targeting pod. Trying to work out if the range is actually usable.

Has anyone noticed that Rafale doesnt produce any engine sound? After the small uptade i cant hear my Rafale’s engines while my other planes works completely fine.

It’s a possibility but will mean your AASMs will be GPS guiding as LOAL doesn’t exist in game currently. So pray your targets don’t move lul.

No, I tried yesterday with the GBU IV, 39, 48, 49 and 90 and all of them fall after 20km. It seems that there are the same limitations as for the designation pod.