Yes, that’s also one of the things that bothers me.
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Let’s be real; as much as I want them fixed, it doesn’t matter whether the Rafale gets 6 or 8 MICAs, they wouldn’t have been changed regardless. As even with USSR planes underperforming, they still haven’t improved the R-77s either. After all, this is Gaijin we’re talking about here, and I’d rather take the guaranteed buff than merely hoping for one.
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I’ve read multiple accounts about the Rafale performing well the Typhoon in WVR/BFM, I think one of them was 9:1 and another was either 4:1 or 4:0 both in 2009. All favoring the Rafale. Unfortunately it seems nothing is in writing atleast I haven’t found any.
It makes sense that the Rafale has lower wing angle in the area of 40 something degrees, Eurofighter higher angle at 50+ degrees, as such the Rafale will of course have improved maneuvering characteristics when it comes to the airframe. The Eurofighter boasts a higher T/W but that is not the end of the story.
The Rafale will win one circle dynamics, the Eurofighter will perform better at high speeds and in energy retention. It is expected they will be very close in sustained turn with the favor going towards the Rafale.
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Running a suboptimal loadout ( for war thunder ) will not get them to fix the MICA I don’t know why you guys want to believe that
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If they add the missile, we are almost 100% sure that they will do nothing because they will have the argument of “we are giving you more missiles, stop complaining”. At least with a REALISTIC load, they will perhaps realize that the plane is not performing in the best way and they will correct the missile.
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Magics only really got “fixed” this way as well.
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I mean the mirage is nice but it’s still missing some aoa and roll rate
With magic 2 and Mica it’s a really deadly plane that will end a dog fight on the first turn
the bottom line is they do what they want to do in the time frame they want to do it
if the rafale comes out and completely sucks and collects a sub 50% WR maybe they’d do something but we all know this is not gonna happen due to the playerbase of France
Better have more MICA
@WreckingAres283 Hello,
it has come to my attention that RAF is missing an airbrake? Can we work on this?
It is supposed to have a variable airbrake switch which makes the canards point upwards to act as an “airbrake”.
Yeah in mid air that would make the canard rip if the speed is too high
It’s meant for landing more than anything else
I know, the Devs don’t consider it atm;
Developer’s response:
maybe it should work on ground only, we are not implement this now. you can brake by full stick pushing forward, as on other canard-delta planes.
In flight this is definitely impossible - deflection angle of canards and elevons doesn’t allow to perform enough braking without significant pitch down moment that will occur terminal negative g-load.
Better explanation or evidence may be needed.
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Are those stats of the game or real life?
Also the AMK kit of the Typhoon doesn’t equip any production aircraft and as such shouldn’t be considered here
No, certainly not, the main thing is that they manage to produce a functional plane that corresponds to reality, that’s the minimum.
If we start playing the game of mediocrity and ease, it’s over. If the plane doesn’t perform as it should, it’s either because it’s poorly modeled or because its armament is poorly modeled, adding more weapons to make it better is not a solution at all
I would accept adding additional Mica the day someone shows me a RELIABLE source showing that it’s possible
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Thanks! After speaking to other people they are saying its a game engine limitation, which is just wow.
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Which is so incredibly stupid, given they could just fudge it near enough to reality by implementing the trailing edge flaps functionality in the airbrake-esque mechanism.
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Right, or in my mind as simple as, when pressing the airbrake the canards are disabled and just … point upwards … simple as is … LOL?
So you’re saying the report that just got forwarded is using unreliable sources ?
With that rhetoric then forget about most MAX A2A loadouts in the game because most of them do not sortie like that
The canards are not the entire system. The trailing flaps are more of an impact than the canards from my reading, canards just help in keeping some level of control whilst using the airbrake-esque functionality. Really odd thing is we have aircraft in game that use flaps as an airbrake and maintain control, so the functionality should be there even if took some reworking.
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They are not, all the sources that were used were shown in this forum and none of them show a French Rafale F3, they are either export variants, or demonstrators for shows or it is just not the right version of the aircraft
Typically I wouldn’t mind.