Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

The lack of urgency to upgrade the Radar shows that the rest of the airframe is meeting the requirements and needs.

Otherwise nations would be trying to bail out of the Typhoon on the grounds it’s flight performance, sensors and weapon suites are not up to the standard of the todays battlefield.

Instead every nation that uses them and every pilot including Raptor guys have said the flight performance and acceleration is excellent. In game we don’t out accelerate an F-15E anymore.

To my understanding Germany, Italy, and UK still have not upgraded to AESA yet while it is true that the mechanical Captor had received many upgrades over the years. Not sure how relevant it would be to mention the AESA when it’s not yet in service.

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mil power means not using burners no?

Germany yes. Italy hasnt decided which version yet. Britain has just started

I more meant i;d be surprised if it couldn’t go faster.

GaN is being introduced to RBE2 on Rafale F4.2 which will be put into service later this year. But yes RBE2-XG will take full advantage of GaN and also will feature 75% more range (current RBE2 is already missing a sizeable portion of range).

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It’s in the works, I more meant in your usage of the RBE2-XG.

Also I wasn’t aware the second RBE2-AA radar included GaN I was of the understanding that that was planned for RBE2-XG.

In which case I viewed that as a fair comparison

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Then you’re in luck as developers typically just read the sources for themselves rather than taking the text as truth.

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agreed, but 1.4 on 80% throttle on the Rafale, a plane that afaik isnt exactly known for its high speed capabilities? that has to be under ideal conditions in a shallow dive

Tbf, F.5 is very likely to be come a bit heavier (+ new Pods such as ESJ) and new, maybe more efficient, engines may then be necessary.

I would still take that with a grain of salt tbh, especially with the very scarce informations atm and the already anyway planned introduction of GaN with RBE2-XG - Then there are also mentions of a F.4.3 and a Rafale C spotted with some kind of new Communication System being spotted, so who knows.

its reminiscent of the super hornet program to me. major airframe, avionics, and engine changes but same name lol

or maybe the EF is massively overperforming in supercruise

but gaijin said that it isnt realistically possible to reach those speeds while supercrusing

so it has to be a marketing lie

Primary sources state it can do 1.5. It can barely do 1.3 at the moment. If the Rafale has enough dry thrust to reach 1.4 at 80% throttle (with what we should assume to be a standard warload and not a super stripped down, ultra light airframe used only for testing) then the Typhoon should be able to at least do 1.4 at 100% throttle.

nah that is clearly a marketing lie

no plane would be ever able to achive that
meme-clueless

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“Oh I see there is a lot of new answers in the Rafale thread let’s check it out”
“Talking about EFT again”.

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what were the test conditions if you dont mind me asking? alt 40k ft doesnt say everything. temperature would be good to know, as well as whether it was really level flight or a slight dive. loading of the aircraft and fuel amount as well as whether 80% thrust means the real max (80% of afterburner power) or 80% of mil power are pretty important too

Talking about f22 this time too !

Goal is talking about 6th gen aircraft in this thread !

Rafale is just that peak /s

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If sources direct from the manufactorer are “Dubious secondary sources” then the sources from Safran are also “dubious secondary sources”.

Obviously the thread should be renamed to every current top of the line aircraft from every country and make a proper Rafale thread on the side. /s