edit: heres another one
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Now we just need MICA VL NG testing and we’re all set.
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I love this photo
There is indeed quite literally nothing relying on “guesses” in the bug report.
Sometimes, it looks like even Tech Mods don’t read the bug reports.
Or perhaps it’s the tale as old as time of Tech Mods being biased against France …
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holy quality
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*Just a matter of finding a tech mod who conveinently really likes French vehicles
You gotta be kidding me
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@TheKnightOfZero @MightyBaozi @Pacifica
Hello, I apologize for contacting you again. However, I would like to ask for your help.
Despite repeated warnings, people are attacking each other again and straying from the topic.
We would appreciate it if you could mediate before the confusion starts again.
It’s not guesses and calculations if it is literally stated what the current installed engine provides.
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It’s not guesses tho.
- Etape 2 produces 150 more daN : That is stated by a primary source. No guess here
- Etape 1 curve is known (and it’s not a guess since we shared it to the devs already). 150 more daN is 2% more. It’s just basic maths and doesn’t contradict anything
- Improvement up to 15% (in certain conditions) is also stated by sources
Calculations are totally okay for bug reports. They help paint a better picture. Guesses aren’t. There’s no guesses in this report.
But you know where guesses were made ? When devs acknowledged the report for Mach 1.4 supercruise (that came from completely different sources btw) but couldn’t get it to work with the wacky game engine so they had to guess values to get it close
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/8Dgnlk2jsPDu?comment=S5nlUs7US34aJQpuLKidEOUw
You know what else is more guesses than sources ? Half of the EFT reports (Some people that were actively trying to report it correctly really had a hard time lol)
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if i have to multiply the thrust of a differnt engine by a certain percentage
it is literally a calculation
Then I believe you’re misunderstanding it. It’s not about providing calculations, no calculations need to be done here for the bug-reporter. For the bug-reporter all he demonstrates is that there’s plausible explanation for how the supercruise performance was achieved where previously developers stated it would require abnormal thrust, or what they believed to be abnormal thrust.
Further, his report at the very least should have been passed due to the installed engine thrust underperforming as that was specific.
Current installed engine thrust is something like 71.88kn when it should instead then be 73kn which is explicitly stated in the report.
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What conditions? do we know?
Yeah? What’s weird about it? Rafale was always able to take 8 missiles, we just don’t know if it can make micas in place of meteors
Nope.
Four Meteor is the maximum, but may increase with F.5 or even future F.4s, depending on how things develop.
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It’s very easy to find pictures of the Rafale carrying micas on the middle underwing pylons, and everyone knows it can take micas on the wingtips and outer underwing pylons so with the two intake ramp meteors that’s 8
According to some it might even be able to take 10 with two micas underbelly in tandem, even though I don’t know any evidence
Its always easy to find pictures, but whether you know what you’re looking at (or read) is something else entirely .
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You’ll have to scroll down a bit, but there are some pretty clear pictures here
Official Dassault website also has pics
Btw about the underbelly ones I won’t make any certain claims since I haven’t found reliable sources but I suspect it because:
- There are some diagrams floating around the internet that indicate it (ik it’s not reliable but that means it might be a thing)
- The Rafale’s belly hardpoint is in fact two in tandem and the Rafale M only has one and can still carry the same stuff underbelly, the only reason I see for this is these two tandem pylons can each carry a mica (so the M could only carry one)