Rafale 4.1 is where it’s upgraded to 8, and Rafale begins using AESA on F.3.4 and F.3R.
That’s in the post included in multiple of my posts today, as well as in the original post of this topic.
I wouldn’t be opposed to the removal of 2 missiles on 2000-5F and Rafale having only 6, if they fixed MICA EM tbh. That and an eventual MICA IR addition down the road
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Do you guys think the Rafale we’ll be getting will have SPECTRA? I know some of the Mirage 2000’s have MAWS systems but SPECTRA kinda seems like more than just MAWS.
If they do add it, It’ll probably just be another MAWS system without the EW equipment, right?-
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most likely. They already stated they don’t model EW for now
Maybe we could see a reduced RCS, since the F117 is now a thing, but since it depends on loadout (unlike F117) i’m not too optimistic
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It’d be really nice if they did model stuff properly. Incredibly unlikely, but it would be nice.
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i’ve learned not to set my expectations too high X)
If they model the reduced RCS, depending on loadout, i’ll already be happy.
Problem with EW is that it will be a lot of guesswork, too
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I wonder if they’ll model radar absorbent paint anytime soon, as some aircraft ingame could already get it
off the top of my head I know the tornado f.3 can
I think it will just be a standard UV MAWS + LWS for now,
I read it has missile identification and target identification functions so perhaps if we are lucky rather than just getting a launch the system would tell you what type of missile it is for example the missile icon thats present with the label ‘120’ or ‘R-77’ or ‘Pl-12’ etc?
Maybe the radar lock could display the target identity e.g ‘F-15’. Or even something as simple as light, medium and heavy, as knowing something is a Gripen/F-16 vs an F-15 or Flanker would influence play decisions.
Its unfortunate as it would be a good buff and with the addition of RAM reduced RCS and perhaps a general ‘EW RCS Reduction Modifier’ it could help to overcome the nonsense range on the MICA EW’s.
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Think they’ll model the Rafale’s massively reduced IR signature? Imo, that’s even better than reduced RCS
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if they do it would be great, but that’s unlikely,… considering too few aircraft have those
Well we know the Rafale is already kinda-stealthy, maybe the SPECTRA will just lower the RCS in game
Remember, this is Gaijin expecting 10/10 modeling is to high of an expectation
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That would make sense,
Thank you!
SPECTRA can do that ? X)
Yeah having LWS would be a nice bonus at least
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Anyone else ready to dogpile the ‘I have the same issue!’ button on the reports on how nerfed the Rafale is?
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Oh yes I’m ready
On the other hand, what I don’t like a lot is that many content creators announce fancy capabilities for the plane (I’ve seen at least 3 or 4 videos announcing a payload of 10 to 12 Mica today)
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As if proper research is that hard… clicks on Wikipedia noises - I hate such content no matter what its about.
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To be fair, i expect it to be actually worse than 2000 just based on having less missiles. In air RB, 2000C will be better simply due to having more missiles and in sims, mica is just meme… i would rather have R77 over mica in sims, no matter the platform. Unless they go way of giving rafale more missile pylons like they did with 2000-5, it wont be good plane. It either needs nerfed IRCCM mica-ir but with significantly better all aspect or they have to unF*ck micas guidance and general range. That thing should sit between 120B and C… not halfway towards 120A.
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As EW is not modelled in game yet no EW. As Rafale would probably be the first(And kinda only) semi stealth vehicle it could get reduced RCS but the loadouts it has are way more advanced than the ones of the F117 and Rafale would be the only aircraft to benefit from that so no semi stealth. Spectra will basically be an advanced RWR with a wide range of bandwidth detection and ofc a MAWS the DDM-NG that should normally offer a complete cover arround the aircraft. SPECTRA would also come with an LWS iirc and the ability to fire missile via RWR signals (won’t be moddelled ofc).
Basically what you could expect from SPECTRA in the current state of the game if gaijin doesn’t implement EW with the update is : Very advanced RWR + MAWS + LWS
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Well “official” mockups for now only ever shown a Rafale with 10 MICA max LMAO these guys must be immagining a frankenstein Rafale made of what has been seen on recent mockups + Rafale protos that were showcased with belly test MICAs. WT video maker do like dreaming.
2000C has 4 missiles Rafale would have between 6 and 8 if we get lucky so 2KC will obviously be worse than Rafale and even if Rafale only gets 6 missiles and not 8 2K5F will be worse in terms of flight perfs evading with a Rafale will be way easier than with a 5F. Also saying Rafale would be bad just because it’s missiles are nerfed is wild it’ll be one of the best planes of the update if not the best + at some point in time gaijin will start to un-nerf the MICA like they un-nerfed Magic 2, hope it’ll be with this update.