Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

It’s settled. We moved on.

The Rafale was already arguably the best plane in-game, and its only competitor from last update got a buff (MAWS) and a nerf (FM), along with a fix to its radar that might make it less of an outright liability in the only flight regime where it might still beat the Rafale (very long range BVR), while the Rafale got a laundry list of buffs at literally no cost.

How you guys manage to continue to spin yourselves as the victims is beyond me at this point. With how preferred the Rafale seems to be when it comes to bug fix attention from the devs, I wouldn’t be surprised if every one of the additional bug fixes Direct_Support mentioned will be fixed in the next 1-2 major updates at this rate. I have never in the history of this game seen a vehicle that gets bug fixed at the speed the Rafale has been getting.

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Was the radar not tracking in every direction?

So there’s no improvement with the scanning speed of the radar?

Means the radar now continues to update targets outside of its search cone, so it’ll keep updating targets within the full 140x140 deg zone the radar can cover even if its only scanning 70x16 for example.

You might have to go over and start reporting the Eurofighter. They seem to be struggling with making reports :P

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Eh, I would say everything which coukd be reported is reported…
We have currently ~50 reports which are Accepted/Suggestions

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I meant that launching mica missile and asm hammer from rwr would yeah make it crazy op and would only happen if similar planes could get such features and as far as i get eurofighter doesn’t have it or i did not see it talked about at all and we would wait more on something like f35.

I’m not against the current balance, no need to assume things, i’m still waiting for everyone to get competitive spaa with the current cas there is…

50 km range MAWS lol. Could probably have a quick snack and still have time left to defeat the missile

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I think guiding MICA-EM with IRST is already in the game. When I lost radar lock and radar automatically switched to the IRST, my MICA was still guiding based on datalink and relocked the target on its own thanks to the speed and distance provided by the datalink (even though it switched to IRST). However this was at rather close range and I only have idea about it because I held “U” key for checking if MICA-EM is guiding or not.

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We have plenty, Gaijin just pulls the “marketing lies” on us

Arguably its already been covered, its just not something explicitly stated or that the EFT crowd have focused on a whole lot, seeing as there are other more pressing matters wrong with the EFT at the moment.

This post by Gunjob explains that all individual sensor tracks are amalgamated into “system tracks” and fed into the attack bus.

I do have a source regarding the ability of IRIS-T to be launched via radar/IRST/MAWS/DL/HMD for example, which you could technically argue doesn’t include the RWR, but seeing as all the info is merged into a system track when fed to the attack bus, I’d argue it was more of a missed mention imo, but I could see the argument that it “cant” be slaved via RWR either, though that’d be functionally irrelevant, since the pilot would just have to turn his head to look at the target and fire the missile via slaved HMD acquisition, which itself would have received the info from the RWR (among other sensors).

Arguably speaking, the ability to fire LOAL weapons via sensors other than the radar is probs not exactly anything crazy for modern jets in general. As long as the sensor can provide accurate azimuth and elevation, you’d technically have enough info to fire in a LOAL mode. If you’re going for targets outside the weapons seeker range, the targets vector of motion and range would be needed to have a decent chance at an intercept trajectory, but I’d be somewhat surprised if out of sensor shots were being made without the support of a “more” weapons grade track (something providing azimuth, elevation, range and target vector). Modern RWR’s should all be roughly capable of this tho, seeing as they can already get azimuth, elevation, approximate range, and should in theory be capable of discerning an approximate vector for the target based on its rate of positional change relative to itself.

So generally speaking, I dont think firing AAM’s off non-primary sensors is likely to be a unique feature of the Rafale. It might just be such a mundane feature for modern jets that nobody else bothers mentioning it. The French and Dassault do generally seem to be somewhat loose with their OPSEC regarding the Rafale in the first place, I wouldnt put it past them to brag about a very normal feature on a modern jet.

The statement “so long as it doesnt give to the Rafale the edge over other planes, it won’t happen” implies that gaijin wouldn’t buff the Rafale if it made it any better than other jets. That may not have been what you meant, but its how it reads, if I misunderstood, I apologize, but the french players have also had a habit of significantly downplaying the capabilities they have and pretending they are the perpetual victims of gaijins hatred or neglect, so putting 2 and 2 together, I may have jumped to conclusions, sorry.

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What’s up with the constant Eurofighter people flooding this topic ? there’s close to none of us on the EF topics

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Because most of the time certain people here are baiting the EF people here with comments how this or that is bad on the EF.

It was specifically mentionned he didnt think the EFT could do said thing, so I provided info on it being able to, and why most modern planes likely can as well.

Also, Ive said this about a billion times now, I like both and have both. I do however find the EFT community more reasonable to deal with.

I did however think about answering his question in an EFT thread, since I knew atleast one person would get their panties in a twist over seeing the letters “EFT” in this thread, but elected not to, since the comment was still in compairison to the Rafale and an answer to someone elses question in this thread.

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Can we vote “None of the above”?

Hi
After the game update, the Rafale’s MAW still doesn’t indicate the missile’s position like the EF-2000 does.
rar

Also, the MAW detection range is still only 5 kilometers.
MAW

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Afaik, the report on this is still open.

MAW detection range was reported to be 27km, still open. DDM-NG still is given DDM stats but DDM itself should be reported to 10km soon so they may change DDM-NG to 10km until they resolve the 27km report.

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Are there any reports on missing informations on the HUD?

Yes quite a few have been made by @IsurusOxyrinchus on many small things

If you’re referring to this bug report, the RWR already does range missiles in-game with the MSL mark on your RWR. The report does not seem to indicate SPECTRA has any way of ranging missiles that do not have their own radar emitters, such as IR missiles and SACLOS SAM’s.

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