Funilly enough I believe the TNT equivalent of the HOT series were redefined using this doc as well, as they give composition and exact mass of the explosive to the 10 grams, but HOT 2 penetration just doesn’t want to go through.
Also wish we’d have sight stabilization for the ACRA
Theres no real reason why France should be the only nation immune to their export success. I personally hate subtrees, but saying the Rafale should not be given to anyone else is silly when everyone else has to share their exported jets with others.
I don’t even saying Rafale should not be given to anyone else, did you read? As if you really had personal hatred to France 🙄
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Your stipulations are silly, nobody else waited excessive amounts of time in-game or for significantly better competitors that power creep the vehicles in question for cross tech tree vehicles to be given to them (except germany, Germany almost always has to wait excessive amounts of time). A couple patches here and there but thats about it. You’re effectively saying “I dont mind if the Rafale is added in other TT’s as long as its rendered completely obsolete by the time its given to them” which is in the same ballpark of saying “I want to be the only one allowed to play the best jet in-game”.
I dont see much reason in discussing personal desires for who gets what jet when/how anyways. Everyone has their own personal views on the matter and its doubtful any of us will budge on said views, so its a dead end convo.
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So you are saying that the British TT is in desperate need for 2 more 14.0 jets the Rafale and Su-30.
And when the time comes it should also get the su-57 and the f-35.
My man the EF is still the best or second best vehicle in the game why would you need the rafale in the British TT.
And if you really want to give a country with the EF a Rafale give to Germany which has the worst typhoon of them all, with unique features like not having an IRST.
As it stand Britain doesn’t need the Rafale or the Su-30, as they gonna get a tranche 4 typhoon.
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Germany has no right to claim Rafale under any circumstances, most they can get is Swiss F-18.
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They also have no right to claim the Swedish modifications of the Leopards, but they still make those leaps of logic.
Such as?
The 122s? What other Swedish leopards would they be claiming? They’ve already the leopard 1s and the 2a6s. They’ve a mostly credible claim to first 122, the rest are pretty Sweden specific on account of environmental influences on their ugprades.
I made an ironic statement so you can see how stupid the argument of Britain getting the rafale is
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Yeah, so does your cope tbh, I don’t see much reason in discussing personal grudge for France, especially when you’re literally strawmanning my points. Blame Gaijin for giving the Taiwanese Mirage 2000 only for one update only to be killed by Rafale in next update 🤷♂️ not me.
Fair enough.
They dont claim that Strv122’s should be in German tech tree, they are saying the armor on 122’s developed by German company so Germany should also recieve similiar armored Leopards.
At least thats what sane German players says.
I must have missed the sane ones then. Though that claim is not much of an improvement, otherwise the Brits and Swedes could get nigh everything on account of BAE involvement in spall rubbish and such. But it is definitely better than “122 to our tree because reasons”.
Though this is derailing and unrelated, so wrapping up now.
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From what I see on here most of the ground players tend to have “interesting” opinions
Most of them are jealous people who wants to see every other nations vehicles in their favourite tree, kinda like people who wants to see Indıan Su-30/Rafale and F-18 or UAE Leclerc and M1A2 on British tree.
to me the funniest of them all are the ones who cry russian bias despite never playing a russian vehicle in war thunder.
… I agree that the Pantsir and KH-38 are powerful but that dosent justify comments like this imo:
KH38’s are powerful until enemy team spawns with proper CAP plane, when that happens SU-34 becomes food.
As for the Pantsir, while its true that its the best Spaa platform at top tier any competetent pilot can easily avoid and destroy it with little effort.
Spaa’s at top tier generally helpless against any good pilot.
yeah they are powerful until you try actively countering them but for some reason alot of players dont understand that
they rather try to dogfight with their fully loaded f-15e and then cry about it when they lose
Even then F-15E will still win the dogfight 80 percent of the time.
I’ve also noticed most complaining players about KH-38’s are the EFT pilots, guess they got dissapointed when they learned they cannot spam 18 F&F Brimstone missiles while having one of the best airframe that can challenge anything in air.