Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

I love Rafale M :)

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Isn’t that the combined PVS 2000 / AMIDS brochure? If not then I think you’ve found something the British/ German community have not been able to do far.

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Well … I’m guessing they haven’t discovered google yet …

https://rochesteravionicarchives.co.uk/items/missile-approach-warner-and-advanced-missile-detection-system-pvs2000

Well done, that is literally the combined PVS 2000 / AMIDS brochure I am talking about…

He said the report does not use a PVS 2000 brochure though. So either he is mistaken and it does actually use that brochure, or he has found a entirely new brochure that no one in the British or German research communities have been able to find.

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Yeah, I think I missed the “if not” there in the middle :)

But either way, this brochure doesn’t seem to prove what you seemingly want to use it to prove (being undetectable by RWR).

It just says “low power”.

Which is a relative term … Of course a small radar is “low power” …
And nobody is asking for it to be detectable from 400km away …

Rafael should only be placed in other nations trees if:

  1. They currently do not have a contemporary/comparable platform. (As the UK has the eurofighter, then it really has no reason to have the rafael from india as it is exactly the same aa the french rafale.

Or

  1. The host country that uses the aircraft has signficantly modified it from the original specification to make it a unique aircraft, such as different engines, avionics or weapons.

Also we could say the same argument that the Rafale RBE2 AESA uses LPI modes to have it become undetectable.

Another option is that I included it in the text but completely forgot to upload the brochure or even a screenshot of it, I was just mainly focused on uploading the literature sources. Gunjob can tell everyone here whether or not the brochure had been uploaded (it hadn’t).

Wasn’t on the report no.

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Already been done: Community Bug Reporting System

This report is asking for RBE2-AA to have a low probability of detection not to be completely undetectable. What you are hoping for is that the devs make DASS completely undetectable.

If the latter were actually true, the Eurofighter would not be shifting towards a passive infrared MAWS in the future. DASS is simply outdated.

So i relaunched WT since 2 months, Radar is still super slow for first acquisitions (forced to put the tiniest scope to refresh faster) and it still missing HUD informations (most importantly target range).

Yea, there was also something else which was wrong because the Devs believed the UK Doc more than the others, luckly an mod found issues on that Doc so he could just bonk it

Which report is this in reference to?

at least from what I feel how Gaijin gives the Taiwanese Mirage 2000, MAYBE Rafale will be given to other nations IF the next update after it (e.g. Firebirds to Storm Warning) France will be getting another brand new aircraft. So my best guess for when the Rafale will be given to other nation, maybe when F-22/F-35 has come, and France is getting Rafale F.5 or something that are comparable to 5th Gen Fighter.

Because especially with this consideration, I don’t think Gaijin really consider this much, since the Taiwanese Mirage 2000 straight up just a “Non-CAS-capable” of Mirage 2000-5F. Most copy paste aircraft now don’t really have that difference much IMO.

From an old report: пробиваемость ПТУР HOT - Германия - Официальный форум

The images are dead on the link now, but here they are:

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The devs split the difference (more or less) between 800mm and 960mm and gave HOT 2s 900mm penetration.

Meanwhile information from the DGA states a calibre of 150mm (which British sources don’t even get correct) and 1200mm penetration.

There was a report accepted recently about the hot 2 for the pen.

This: Community Bug Reporting System ? I’ve also seen 1250mm from the manufacturer as well. DGA should take precedence over every other source in my opinion, though.

But I digress, British MoD documents are no better than toilet paper a lot of the time: “We can’t do it so we doubt anyone else can do it”.

Ah, yeah, i thought that one was gonna work…
Otherwise yeah i agree.

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From the DGA:

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Funnily enough, the time to distancs is used to model HOT missiles currently.

All this is to say, I would prefer to wipe my ass with the sources used in Fireball’s report trying to nerf the Rafale :P

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