Which aircraft? It could just be that RWR is not identifying the Su-30SM’s radar and so cannot detect launch
Hi,
It seems that on the dev server, the Rafale’s MAW still can’t detect the precise location of incoming missiles.
Shouldn’t it have the same functionality as the EF-2000’s MAW?
Image 1 is the Rafale
Image 2 is the EF-2000.
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Some sources stated it can detect the range of missiles.
I do however wonder how they’d achieve that. It’s quite similar to the PIRATE conendrum we spoke about before. Being a fully passive IR sensor, there’s not really a precise and fail proof way to detect the range of a missile without external sensors.
In the case of radar missiles, I fully expect the sensor fusion with the RWR to give pretty accurate data on the range to be displayed by both the MAW and RWR, both being presented on the same MFD
For IR and other passive missiles, i don’t really have an idea of how it would work.
Anyway, there’s a report with primary sources on that, so we’ll see how the devs respond to this
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Interestingly… from SAT:
Y’know, DDM was quite sophisticated for 1980s era technology.
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Su 30, though su 30 did appear to lock according to RWR, but there was no launch warning for the ER. Don’t really have anyone to test it with to assert if the issue is prevalent or not.
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Yes it should, if it still has not been fixed by the time they mark the countermeasure sensor fusion report as fixed then I will report it again.
Because the maws knows the direction of arrival of the missile and the AESA SPECTRA antennas all over the aircraft can perform ranging functions of the missiles, and also jam them when necessary.
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Ok so RWR/jamming can act similarly to the the EFT Radar based MAW then with sensor fusion ?
But on the other hand @Mulatu_Astatke sharrd a source stating that DDM by itself could get the positional data of the missile, so they can still do it without using the rest of the SPECTRA suite (M2K also carry the same DDM, and it’s RWR is just a regular RWR)
Isn’t the MAWS system PD or even PESA?
On Typhoon
It’s PD for sure. As for PESA or AESA, there’s absolutely no information on it. Some people have tried to use Wikipedia’s unsourced napkin maths to “prove” it’s AESA but any logical person agrees for now that no conclusive sources can really tell us.
However, being PD, it’s totally capable of getting distance and speed of incoming missiles.
Technically, and I never thought of that, but since the jammers of the SPECTRA (from 2013 onwards at the very least) are ESA (AESA according to @DirectSupport ?), they could perform similar tasks, when directed by the IR based MAW, even though it’s not their primary role (Jamming being their priority)
oh boy i sure do love the rudolf
Me who flies the Rafale, planning on grinding Italy’s Typhoon, knowing I am indeed in danger
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It was inevitable…
It’s like the RMV and Leclerc
Things getting added in an underestimated state requiring plenty of buffs later
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The RMV has been integrated into the game quite well, it hardly lacks anything.
I mean by now yeah, but the amount of reports + it not having MICA-IR because it was added too early
In itself, the reports were made before its release and at the time of the update everything was there. For the Mica anyway it is normal that he did not have them and if it was necessary for the planes to arrive in game with their best missiles, 80% of the top tier planes would not have been added.
The RMV only needs some improvements to the radar and for the few weapons it lacks, but otherwise it was a good integration into the game.
Fair, Mirage 2000-5F itself would be a better example, its jump when Fox-3 got added is plain to see
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For this one it’s certain, its addition was way too early
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would you guys accept me even if i grinded russia for the SU-30SM
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