He referring to the video where Defyn admits he’s not showing the fights where the EFT loses that a bunch of ppl in the community are now using as “proof” the EFT is the “best plane in the game”.
Theyre about tied, Rafale narrowly wins 1c, EFT narrowly wins 2c, any mistakes made by either pilots would be critical in the fight:
Missiles do have an effect, that’s just about the dumbest take I’ve heard. Not only do they provide positional pressure pre-merge, the MICA’s are extremely dangerous off-bore post-merge, as are Magic 2’s. The AIM-120 and AIM-9M on the other hand are borderline dead weight post-merge, with the exception of if the enemy tries to run or extends too far.
Pre-merge (non-BVR): MICA >>> AIM-120 , AIM-9M >> Magic II
Post-merge: MICA N/C , Magic II > AIM-9M
1000m alt M1.0 launch @10km vs co-alt, co-speed target:
In all shot conditions, the MICA has a similar TTI to the AIM-120, the best long range fox 3 at top tier. There is a definite energy advantage to the AIM-120 in those extreme range shots, particularly vs maneuvering target Id assume (something this simulator cant model afaik), but in return, the MICA is significantly better in WVR combat. I think the whole “the MICA is worthless in BVR” thing is pretty overplayed at this point…
Data from statshark missile simulator, take with grain of salt, but seems pretty accurate when cross-referenced to the old graphs from the post attached below.
Still no clue how they can reach this conclusion when in training as far as i see they get beaten all the time against rafale and from what i get the few times they won rafale was intentionnaly nerfed and/or it was a younger pilot. (I don’t have source for now for the second part or not much in depth)
I like them better when it’s nice and short (unlike Mythic’s thesis paper which I cannot be bothered to read or respond to). Concise cope is always funnier.
I am fully capable of having a discussion with other people who bring as much evidence as they want. I prefer people bring evidence rather than making baseless claims.
What he wrote is mostly copy paste from the German EFT thread which has already been replied to. He also has an extensive history in this thread and I’m not too keen on starting that again.
Alright, but I’d still like if you explained your first message because at every single point I missed a reference to something
You came sending a message that was seemingly an answer to nothing at all and made points about stuff you didn’t mention, I need explanations
Also, a video of a guy smoking everyone with a plane is no proof that said plane is the best. The skill actually matters and some guy who mastered the Rafale could probably make the exact same video
I’m not even questioning your opinion, I don’t play top tier. But your proof doesn’t look like proof to me
A bunch of F-15 fans are saying the F-15 is weak and the F-16 is way better. You believe the F-15 is better than the F-15, would you rather post your beliefs in the F-15 thread where you will get 15 replies calling you an idiot or in the F-16 thread where people agree with you?
Eurofighter Fanatics who can’t accept truth
The Rafale pilot is the best top tier duelist in the game
Lets break that down, I watched the video and yes in a clean jet guns only fight Typhoon wins.
BVR - Typhoon edges it with a superior missile only edges it though as the Rafales Radar is massively superior.
Medium range - Rafale all day long, MICA and the best Radar. Typhoon has to work hard to dodge TVC MICAS and get 120 shots off.
Short range - Rafale again the combination of MICA and Magic 2 makes the difference
High altitudes - Typhoons superior performance gives it the edge.
Low altitude - Rafale MICA are much harder to defeat at lower altitudes. 120s are so easy to multipath.
Ground battles - Remove the player markers and the Typhoons Radar inequity becomes huge. The nature of ground battles Rafale is better suited to the short to medium range engagements.
Ground attack ordinance ASM fnf missiles while Rafale carries fewer than a Typhoon they are superior. Thats not to say Brimstone is bad. Brimstone will become more useful when tanks start to receive APS on mass.
Us “Eurobros” worry that to Gaijin the Typhoon is great so why spend the energy to fix the Radar.
Su-30 is coming and shortly after a new F-15 with an AESA Radar. Eurobros are going to have to wait for a new Typhoon with an AESA!
Both jets are very closely matched the Rafale is the more refined of the two.
They both multipath in the exact same way tho. Just like every radar missiles in game. 50m.
Actually, the lower explosive mass of the MICA makes it worse at low altitude than the AIM120, because it is less likely to kill when near miss
