I know its not the same thing and i didnt like what Gaijin did to F3R, personally i would be fine with HMD and 6 missiles but here we are.
Honestly i prefer more top speed rather than 2 extra missiles, which shouldn’t be problem considering the reason why Rafale’s top speed was limited due to RAM Coating.
Yes, yes @luque13, the typhoon radar is still not fixed. But have you realised that fixes were actually pretty few for all top tier aircraft in the last update (EFT, SU33 and even rafale ?)
As a very simple exemple, first post of this thread, the list of all accepted reports, and for good measure, this is just for the radar (about 5 or 6 reports will probably not get implemented because they refer to sensor fusion in one way or another, but still)
I am aware but those changes would improve the Rafale not make it playable.
This is the main issue with the bug reporting system.
The Rafales Radar will always find the Typhoon before the Typhoons Radar finds the Rafale and it isnt even close. F-15E Radar is superio by a large margin to the most advanced mech scan Radar in the world.
The Typhoons Radar has been broken since the dev server, we had 3 weeks of a dev server and it entered the live server game as broken as it was despite Gaijin being provided with multiple documents and sources.
We are now 2 months since it’s release and it is still broken. I dont expect them to model PRAETORIAN/DASS I dont expect IRST system to automatically lock what I’m looking at I dont expect my MAWS to ID the missile launched and calculate the best possible evasion route.
I do expect my Radar to be able to find and track things.
It would be greatly appreciated if we could kindly discuss Typhoons in the designated Typhoon thread.
I mean, even when both radar will be fixed, the radar aesa of the rafale should always give it the upper hand on the eurofighter, that is how it works irl.
I mean it’s fine to talk about the two when it’s related to compare them (as long as it is the features of the planes) but yeah talking only about the eurofighter here just to whine about it leads nowhere to start with.
Agreed! AESA Radar is always going to be superior. But if you are right infront of me my Radar should atleast see you and it doesnt always due to scan times, patterns.
EFT eats the Rafale in a dogfight
“But the MICA and Magic II”
Missiles have zero effect
“But the Rafale pilot was bad”
Literally the best top tier duelist
“The MICA is actually a good BVR missile”
Neglects to show the comparison to the AMRAAM
Listen, I’m an Eurofighter fan and there’s nothing wrong with being one. The EuroBros have got to stop the cope though, they should spend more time enjoying the best plane in the game rather than coping about the Rafale.
I missed the part where this is the right channel
I mean I have nothing against the Typhoon, it’s a great jet but eh there’s channels for that
Also I’d really like to see the fights you’re refering to because we can say anything from a dogfight… Some people say the Rafale beats the Raptor all day just because of that one fight so I don’t really trust these anymore
He referring to the video where Defyn admits he’s not showing the fights where the EFT loses that a bunch of ppl in the community are now using as “proof” the EFT is the “best plane in the game”.
Missiles do have an effect, that’s just about the dumbest take I’ve heard. Not only do they provide positional pressure pre-merge, the MICA’s are extremely dangerous off-bore post-merge, as are Magic 2’s. The AIM-120 and AIM-9M on the other hand are borderline dead weight post-merge, with the exception of if the enemy tries to run or extends too far.
Pre-merge (non-BVR): MICA >>> AIM-120 , AIM-9M >> Magic II
Post-merge: MICA N/C , Magic II > AIM-9M
In all shot conditions, the MICA has a similar TTI to the AIM-120, the best long range fox 3 at top tier. There is a definite energy advantage to the AIM-120 in those extreme range shots, particularly vs maneuvering target Id assume (something this simulator cant model afaik), but in return, the MICA is significantly better in WVR combat. I think the whole “the MICA is worthless in BVR” thing is pretty overplayed at this point…
Data from statshark missile simulator, take with grain of salt, but seems pretty accurate when cross-referenced to the old graphs from the post attached below.
EuroBros probably read too much Eurofighter magazine and think their plane should be better than the F-22 (the cope will never end): https://web.archive.org/web/20130319085610/http://www.eurofighter.com/fileadmin/web_data/downloads/extpub/01_F22Article_EF_World.pdf
Official Eurofighter publication btw (and they will say that Dassault is the one who ‘markets heavily’ lmao)
Still no clue how they can reach this conclusion when in training as far as i see they get beaten all the time against rafale and from what i get the few times they won rafale was intentionnaly nerfed and/or it was a younger pilot. (I don’t have source for now for the second part or not much in depth)
I like them better when it’s nice and short (unlike Mythic’s thesis paper which I cannot be bothered to read or respond to). Concise cope is always funnier.
I am fully capable of having a discussion with other people who bring as much evidence as they want. I prefer people bring evidence rather than making baseless claims.
What he wrote is mostly copy paste from the German EFT thread which has already been replied to. He also has an extensive history in this thread and I’m not too keen on starting that again.
It’s cute you would think that tho
Alright, but I’d still like if you explained your first message because at every single point I missed a reference to something
You came sending a message that was seemingly an answer to nothing at all and made points about stuff you didn’t mention, I need explanations
Last hundred posts or so here
And
This video and ensuing comment section
ok but then why send the message here and not in that channel?
Fixed it for you. Incoherent ramblings are always annoying xD
Because it pertains to the Rafale and I don’t have any need or desire to interact with 17 EuroBros
How does saying “EFT > Rafale” pertain to the Rafale more than the Typhoon? And what even are EuroBros
