means nothing but funny to see the MICA IR in the loadout
Aren’t the MICAs with a red top supposed to be MICA IR?
Because if the Typhoon had it’s 8 120s and had it’s proper Radar it would surpass the F-15E in close range and BVR.
And Su-27 has fictious dual R-77 mounts.
There isnt a need for more than 6 Meteors and 2 IRIS-T/ASRAAM.
There was a proposed dual Meteror pylon designed for Typhoon but we havent seen it.
We have seen the render from Eurofighter GmbH showing 12 Meteor configuration.
While i admit SU 27SM dual mounts that should be only for SU35 is BS, EFT with only 6 AMRAAM + AIM9M performs very good despite having a completely broken CAPTOR M while SU27SM struggle even with 12 missiles. It’s just BIAS and aa way to not make russia irrelevant in ARB, even SU30 won’t save russia and gaijin knows that so they apply BIAS law. And tbf im’ not against the BIAS law if it avoid a nation, no matter which it is, to become irrelevant.
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Typhoon is perfectly serrviceable with a Radar overhaul there are not a huge amount of complaints that can be made. Would we like a better compromise with Brimstone or even Brimstone 2 certainly.
PIRATE detection buff (I know all IRST are modelled this way)
I think SU-30 will be pushed hard I could even see the R-77-1 being added to it and the better Radar.
I then see an F-15 with an AESA Radar being added.
I just hope they fix the Radar on Typhoon.
I don’t think that’s the reason it doesn’t have 8 AIM-120s, if that’s the case is there an open report on it where Gaijin is delaying implementing it? Typically it is believable that Gaijin is delaying adding/fixing something because it would be overpowered if there’s an open report on it.
Typhoon like Rafale came out before Christmas we are now middle of February.
Gaijin have patched and fixed many issues but they have ignored the Typhoon Radar. It received a little buff which did help but in TWS mode it’s so slow to update. In Gaijins metrics the Typhoon is performing fine and it is. Why rush to fix something when players are doing well in it.
SMIN said some patches and fixes will be implemented on the next major update.
March, March is when we will see a new Russian Su-30 and a new USA aircraft maybe two.
Like the MICAs range “bug” Typhoons Radar has been accepted yet it hasnt been actioned.
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ISE Standard =/= F.3R
I know its not the same thing and i didnt like what Gaijin did to F3R, personally i would be fine with HMD and 6 missiles but here we are.
Honestly i prefer more top speed rather than 2 extra missiles, which shouldn’t be problem considering the reason why Rafale’s top speed was limited due to RAM Coating.
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Yes, yes @luque13, the typhoon radar is still not fixed. But have you realised that fixes were actually pretty few for all top tier aircraft in the last update (EFT, SU33 and even rafale ?)
As a very simple exemple, first post of this thread, the list of all accepted reports, and for good measure, this is just for the radar (about 5 or 6 reports will probably not get implemented because they refer to sensor fusion in one way or another, but still)
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I am aware but those changes would improve the Rafale not make it playable.
This is the main issue with the bug reporting system.
The Rafales Radar will always find the Typhoon before the Typhoons Radar finds the Rafale and it isnt even close. F-15E Radar is superio by a large margin to the most advanced mech scan Radar in the world.
The Typhoons Radar has been broken since the dev server, we had 3 weeks of a dev server and it entered the live server game as broken as it was despite Gaijin being provided with multiple documents and sources.
We are now 2 months since it’s release and it is still broken. I dont expect them to model PRAETORIAN/DASS I dont expect IRST system to automatically lock what I’m looking at I dont expect my MAWS to ID the missile launched and calculate the best possible evasion route.
I do expect my Radar to be able to find and track things.
It would be greatly appreciated if we could kindly discuss Typhoons in the designated Typhoon thread.
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I mean, even when both radar will be fixed, the radar aesa of the rafale should always give it the upper hand on the eurofighter, that is how it works irl.
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I mean it’s fine to talk about the two when it’s related to compare them (as long as it is the features of the planes) but yeah talking only about the eurofighter here just to whine about it leads nowhere to start with.
Agreed! AESA Radar is always going to be superior. But if you are right infront of me my Radar should atleast see you and it doesnt always due to scan times, patterns.
EFT eats the Rafale in a dogfight
“But the MICA and Magic II”
Missiles have zero effect
“But the Rafale pilot was bad”
Literally the best top tier duelist
“The MICA is actually a good BVR missile”
Neglects to show the comparison to the AMRAAM
Listen, I’m an Eurofighter fan and there’s nothing wrong with being one. The EuroBros have got to stop the cope though, they should spend more time enjoying the best plane in the game rather than coping about the Rafale.
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I missed the part where this is the right channel
I mean I have nothing against the Typhoon, it’s a great jet but eh there’s channels for that
Also I’d really like to see the fights you’re refering to because we can say anything from a dogfight… Some people say the Rafale beats the Raptor all day just because of that one fight so I don’t really trust these anymore
He referring to the video where Defyn admits he’s not showing the fights where the EFT loses that a bunch of ppl in the community are now using as “proof” the EFT is the “best plane in the game”.
Theyre about tied, Rafale narrowly wins 1c, EFT narrowly wins 2c, any mistakes made by either pilots would be critical in the fight:
Missiles do have an effect, that’s just about the dumbest take I’ve heard. Not only do they provide positional pressure pre-merge, the MICA’s are extremely dangerous off-bore post-merge, as are Magic 2’s. The AIM-120 and AIM-9M on the other hand are borderline dead weight post-merge, with the exception of if the enemy tries to run or extends too far.
Pre-merge (non-BVR): MICA >>> AIM-120 , AIM-9M >> Magic II
Post-merge: MICA N/C , Magic II > AIM-9M
In all shot conditions, the MICA has a similar TTI to the AIM-120, the best long range fox 3 at top tier. There is a definite energy advantage to the AIM-120 in those extreme range shots, particularly vs maneuvering target Id assume (something this simulator cant model afaik), but in return, the MICA is significantly better in WVR combat. I think the whole “the MICA is worthless in BVR” thing is pretty overplayed at this point…
Data from statshark missile simulator, take with grain of salt, but seems pretty accurate when cross-referenced to the old graphs from the post attached below.
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EuroBros probably read too much Eurofighter magazine and think their plane should be better than the F-22 (the cope will never end): https://web.archive.org/web/20130319085610/http://www.eurofighter.com/fileadmin/web_data/downloads/extpub/01_F22Article_EF_World.pdf
Official Eurofighter publication btw (and they will say that Dassault is the one who ‘markets heavily’ lmao)
Spoiler
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