Why do these kind of nations just go lets buy every fighter jet
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Diverse supply. If US/EU (ef partners) decide to embargo them, they will have Rafale and vice-versa.
US and GER already shown that they cannot be trusted in the slightest and that their weapons might aswell mean big fat nothing in war.
F-15, 16 and 18 still relevant on export market, Rafale is big too, but claiming US can’t sell anything en masse outside of Europe is blatantly false
All 3 are below rafale since 21 and only 16 being higher total. Of which like 1/3 are resold second hands.
Rafale is beating US exports in asia and middle east left and right.
Saudi eagles, Qatari eagles, Saudi desert falcon, F-15SG, and Japan f35+ f15 upgrades and ROCAF F-16V mean nothing to you?
Yet qatar is buying like 40 new rafales, UAE 80, India already received all or nearly all land based ones and rafale won over super hornet in tender for their carrier, indonesia is buying 40+ new rafales.
Egypt chose Rafales over US offerings, Iraq chose rafales over poor US offerings.
Japan an south korea are literally pressured to buy everything from US by US dirty politics since 2WW.
And saudis might aswell buy rafales as they are in talks with french.
saudi arabia are buying T4 typhoons, qatar is buying rafs.
it’s true btw that american pacific allies are buying american but the context there is quite different
ie ROCAF can’t have proper top-tier military hardware, because of mainland china, and the F16V is the compromise while japan and korea rely on american weapons because they’ll tie more with the US
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tbf i think that buying american is a way to make them “more than happy” to defend them in case of a war with china, can’t blame them, i would do the same because an american ally (which is even “near” you) is more helpful than a smaller european one
Stop pretending the Rafale is better than the F-35, Japan buys American bc they get access to our good stuff bc we are strong allies, South Korea better suited for American kit too
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Where did i wrote that its better than rafale you nut,… learn to read. I told its beating F35 in sales since 2021.
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let put this in a simple way
F35 is the top seller in NATO and US friendly (certified) countries
Rafs and phoons are the top seller in non-NATO and not US friendly (not necessarily hostile) because F35 wouldn’t be aviable to them
anyway i think it’s going OT
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And any nation who can buy the F-35, buys them, the Rafale is the second hand option. Qatari Rafale will supplement the eagles, not replace them, they each have their place.
Japan doesn’t buy F-35 bc of some American scheme, it’s because it s the most capable aircraft they can get and their industry benefits from it too.
Alr that’s my final point, good day/night
@draghettoverde is right it is getting OT
Thales also said ‘Several Hundred’ many times to AVOID being caught lying
Greece - Rafale, January 2021. F-35, July 2024
Seems pretty first hand to me
They ordered the F-35 as soon as US gov approved it 😂
So are you intentionally obtuse or?
Yeah, Rafale was first they bought, but it wasn’t by their choice, as said above the Rafale serves as a solution to countries that don’t have approval to buy F-35s
They did not even express interest to buy F-35s until June 2022. If they wanted F-35s they would have sought approval sooner rather than buying the Rafale in the first place.
Let me phrase it differently:
They didn’t want F-35s when they bought the Rafale, they weren’t forced to do anything. They wanted the Rafale.
No, they were interested back in 2019