Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

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It’s funny to me how much a 1970s airframe modified to be basically a tactical bomber with 1990s avionics and weapons has affected top tier, to the point where a 2000s airframe in its 2018 version was considered to be justified to fight it

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2010s*

It doesn’t have its AESA radar, and JHMCS is from early 2000s

Everything is 1990s except for the JHMCS, considering that iirc Rafale in game didn’t have HMD irl, it’s fine to overlook

Engines that weren’t used by F-15Es in America for quite a while too

Engine from 80’s on the F-15, , USAF F-15E had PW-229 years before the F-15I was first made

Did not equip until later, in fact many are still getting them

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What do you mean “not equipped until later” I just said that they had them operationally since 1990s, upgrade program going on or not is completely irrelevant to when it reached initial service

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Seems like this should be incorporated into Mudhen thread

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F-15Es stuck with older engines for quite a while in US service hence the original choice to not have them with them in-game
Similar to the Rafale, where plug-and-play HMD was tested commonly as it was apart of the export package
I’m sure once other nations get their F-15E equal, it will get its AESA radar anyways

I mean in the 199X manual it is said that the production switched to the 229 engines in 1993 iirc.

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Hard to find exact dates, but it seems it underwent EXTREME testing by the US before the choice of making it standard was chosen as the lifespan was evidently shorter

Fleet wide modernization began in the 2000s with PW-229s

id rathre the F-15C get the AESA first tbh, its AESA came first

this would be retrofits no? like Renzo said, new airframe production switched to 229 in 1993

After Rafale and Kfir get their AESA working (F-2 shoulda been before Rafale to get AESA but whatever) since they’re for some reason so lame in-game

Kfir a bit off but it got noticeably better from the inital radar it came with

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Production begun yes, what I was trying to say was that fleet wide modernization efforts begun in the 2000s, while yes a FEW Mudhens today still rock 220s I doubt they are apart of the actively used aircraft.

I don’t get the point he was making regarding todays 220 Mudhens.

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Still wondering what the big thing with Rafale F4.2 is. From what I’ve seen it’ll not be compatible with older airframes and that going alongside Safran’s new engine project, RBE2-XG, all that, maybe it’ll be a new looking Rafale entirely