Stop pretending the Rafale is better than the F-35, Japan buys American bc they get access to our good stuff bc we are strong allies, South Korea better suited for American kit too
Where did i wrote that its better than rafale you nut,… learn to read. I told its beating F35 in sales since 2021.
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let put this in a simple way
F35 is the top seller in NATO and US friendly (certified) countries
Rafs and phoons are the top seller in non-NATO and not US friendly (not necessarily hostile) because F35 wouldn’t be aviable to them
anyway i think it’s going OT
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And any nation who can buy the F-35, buys them, the Rafale is the second hand option. Qatari Rafale will supplement the eagles, not replace them, they each have their place.
Japan doesn’t buy F-35 bc of some American scheme, it’s because it s the most capable aircraft they can get and their industry benefits from it too.
Alr that’s my final point, good day/night
@draghettoverde is right it is getting OT
Thales also said ‘Several Hundred’ many times to AVOID being caught lying
Greece - Rafale, January 2021. F-35, July 2024
Seems pretty first hand to me
They ordered the F-35 as soon as US gov approved it 😂
So are you intentionally obtuse or?
Yeah, Rafale was first they bought, but it wasn’t by their choice, as said above the Rafale serves as a solution to countries that don’t have approval to buy F-35s
They did not even express interest to buy F-35s until June 2022. If they wanted F-35s they would have sought approval sooner rather than buying the Rafale in the first place.
Let me phrase it differently:
They didn’t want F-35s when they bought the Rafale, they weren’t forced to do anything. They wanted the Rafale.
No, they were interested back in 2019
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/FHFKl3wqOctq
Rafale’s TV sensor should be cued by its passive sensors.
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If you could add a source about spectra ability to pinpoint direction (if you don’t have it already) it would probably make your case stronger
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Good call, added.
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The contract for the Rafales was signed in January of 2019. The contract, not a performative tit for tat statement in May because Turkey was going to buy F-35s.
They wanted the Rafale first. There is no other way you can put it.
Fair enough,
As soon as they were able to they ordered them though, I don’t know if the same can be said for Rafale as it has looser export restrictions iirc
Still no range indicator on the HUD?
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Soooo, Kfir got its aesa. It is scanning significantly faster than aesa on rafale… da hell is this. Where gaijin actually gets numbers for scan rate is beyond me.
Its substantially smaller than RBE2 so it cant have more T/R modules. How in the hell is it better in everything compared to RBE exept scan volume in one mode.
Its track zone is limited to like 180km both in MPRF and HPRF TWS.
Apparently Elta 2052 comes in config of 300/500/1500 T/R modules. There is no way in hell its 1500 in kfirs nose. I bet its 300, with a LOT of luck 300-500. Still substantially less than RBE2.
Oh and in test drive, if i compare rafales ACM modes and helmet? Significantly worse than Kfirs. Kfir just pics them up instantly if they are not in perfect notch. Its hands down best radar ingame as of now.
Can someone explain me, where gaijin came up with Rafales scan rate which is subpar even to god damn foxhunter and every other ESA we have ingame now?
Instantly picked up MiG-15 not even hot at 80km in MPRF.
But hey, RBE starts seeing them at 70± hot… Cold? That thing is blind.
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Dunno. What’s the current STR on Rafale?
Is it?
Again, I don’t know ingame nubers, but I do know that M88 has problems with the Rafale’s tiny intakes, which made M88-3 pointless, unless new intake was designed and (retro)fitted into the airframes.
This is why the plane does mere M1.8.
When it comes to drag, Rafale has plenty of it.
Check Rafale’s airshow routine. You’ll rarely see it outta burner, unlike, say, Typhoon.
Large fuel fraction, close coupled canards and blended wing make a whole lota parasitic drag.
HMD locks with aesa POG…
