Your discussion is drifting the topic away, if you want to keep it going please move it elsewhere or to PM.
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can you make a PM gc to keep the discussion going with both or do i have to do serpately
You have to.
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Keep in mind that the RBE2 AESA was upgraded over the years and more radar modes were added, capabilities expanded and even the range of the radar increased over the years. So it’s not that the radar was delivered and that was that.
While the RBE2 AESA has a limited number of T/R modules compared to other radars and does not have the raw performance of newer AESA radars, it was on the flipside a more mature product with more “refined features” as you put it.
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F-35 production is also booked, what you are saying is nonsense. The Rafale is good, but it’s not great.
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Rafale’s STR is inaccurate, so as that’s fixed its supercruise speed will increase as all Gaijin can really do as the primary fix to increase STR is to reduce drag numbers, which will increase supercruise speed.
Similarly to how Typhoon went up in STR after getting supercruise fixed.
Cause we know the engines are correct, and ITR is correct, and STR and supercruise are incorrect.
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Well, obviously that’s a blatant lie.
The F-35 has already been built 1000+ units
Rafale 175
No, they can adjust thrust, oswald coefficient, L/D ratios, what you are saying is cope.
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Oswald and LD are drag related.
Thrust is already correct for M88.
Either way as Rafale’s STR is fixed and/or its supercruise, both will go up.
I expect Rafale’s supercruise to at least match Super Etendard at the end of the day.
That isn’t necessarily true unless you have an installed thrust chart
Again, not true. L/D and oswald change with AoA. Turning requires AoA, supercruise does not.
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For 2021 only, which was somewhat of a special case
Overall F35 sells far more.
Small correction : around 250 have been built as of 2023, with 507 on order
Have you actually read what i wrote??? From 2021 onwards… Dassault sold more units than F35s… Once US ran out of european market, they cant really sell anything else en-masse.
Why do these kind of nations just go lets buy every fighter jet
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Diverse supply. If US/EU (ef partners) decide to embargo them, they will have Rafale and vice-versa.
US and GER already shown that they cannot be trusted in the slightest and that their weapons might aswell mean big fat nothing in war.
F-15, 16 and 18 still relevant on export market, Rafale is big too, but claiming US can’t sell anything en masse outside of Europe is blatantly false
All 3 are below rafale since 21 and only 16 being higher total. Of which like 1/3 are resold second hands.
Rafale is beating US exports in asia and middle east left and right.
Saudi eagles, Qatari eagles, Saudi desert falcon, F-15SG, and Japan f35+ f15 upgrades and ROCAF F-16V mean nothing to you?
Yet qatar is buying like 40 new rafales, UAE 80, India already received all or nearly all land based ones and rafale won over super hornet in tender for their carrier, indonesia is buying 40+ new rafales.
Egypt chose Rafales over US offerings, Iraq chose rafales over poor US offerings.
Japan an south korea are literally pressured to buy everything from US by US dirty politics since 2WW.
And saudis might aswell buy rafales as they are in talks with french.
saudi arabia are buying T4 typhoons, qatar is buying rafs.
it’s true btw that american pacific allies are buying american but the context there is quite different
ie ROCAF can’t have proper top-tier military hardware, because of mainland china, and the F16V is the compromise while japan and korea rely on american weapons because they’ll tie more with the US
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tbf i think that buying american is a way to make them “more than happy” to defend them in case of a war with china, can’t blame them, i would do the same because an american ally (which is even “near” you) is more helpful than a smaller european one