Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Not having used something does not mean that you can’t have knowledge of it.

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Anyone have access to this paper?

The german wiki on about CAPTOR cites it, claiming that the AESA Prototype had up to 30 Sub-arrays. Maybe it contains more info on how many T/R-Modules are needed to form a usable radar-beam?

With 1424 Modules that would be about ~50 Modules per beam.

Good news for the Rafale F5 :

(I don’t think it has already been posted)

It’s in french but we could see a 20% more thrust for the engines with a funding from UAE.

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Great, Safran always said they could do it easily, but DGA never saw purpose of a higher power M88

Cant wait to rip at 75% throttle

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Lmao

You beat me to it X)

If (big if) rafale F5 delivers, there would be :

  • New GaN AESA radar
  • 90 KN thrust engine
  • ASN4G
  • FC/ASW
  • and CFT are probably going to be necessary too, if there is a new engine
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No its not, only R-77 is questionable and more than anything, they are on par.
I have Darter and no, ITS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER than mica at range. You dont even have amraam or mica… you ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE. Everything you have is one plane with R-Darter, stop yapping, you know nothing.
Aim-120
AAM-4
PL-12/SD10
Derby/Darter
THEN R77, Mica and R27ER… yes, ER is about as effective in BVR against amraam as is Mica or 77, in good hands, its actually better as it can reach and keep speed.
Only places where R77s and Micas are better, are sub 15 or 10km shots. Aka absolute nonmeta.

No, you will have extremely limited experience from receiving end. Bare minimum is to use amraam to know how good BVR missile looks and acts and Darter is closer to amraam than to mica.
That guy is british main most likely running into rafales headon at close range.
Well, gripen aint meta in public matches anymore buddy. Speed and climb with BVR missile is the king.
His only high tier french plane is S-4 which is extremely powerful jet at that BR - 0.92 Kd… Iam not going to take opinions on BVR slinging of someone who never used proper BVR fox3, never used mica, never used high alt platform thats quick and has sub 1.0 KD on plane thats blatantly OP on its BR.

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I mean there are lot of articles every week about rafale f5 and UAE, it is not confirmed but it seems to go in a good way.

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I did forget about the AAM-4 and the PL-12 you hardly see Japan and China at top tier.

We really need a speed limiter right now

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It’s always the funding that causes issues

If the funding is done, Safran can get on it quickly, they need to work to keep the know-how anyway, since the FCAS is possibly - probably - most likely going to end up off schedule

Fingers crossed for the 9T M88

Have British Tornado F.3 Late (carries Aim120B) have Gripen C has R-Darter…

The R-Darter is significantly the worst ARHM in the game, it doesnt excel in close range with it over compensating, it doesnt have the range for long range shots (an absolute fact)
and the Gripen unlike the Rafale with it’s in your opinion poor ARHM, it carries double the amount of MICAS to the Gripens Darters.

Again I have the Tornado with Aim120B…but sure, The Tornado has great missiles but a terrible airframe/fm.

All BVR missiles are good depending on the platform and launch speed. You are flying mach 2.0 with your Rafale your MICA is going to be good the issue is you are conflating the performance of your MICA with that of a Typhoon flying at mach 2.0 that is using a superior missile (longer range missile)

anyway France suffers I guess?

If it was a thing

Then the R-Darter is the best missile for BVR. Why? Because my friend said so🤭

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Its second best non TVC missile for off bore shots after R77. Its Effective range is about double of mica… WTF are you yapping about.
Tornado is NOT fast. You cant get BVR range out of it like on 15,16 or EF.
You can get effective range of amraam on these like max range of mica on Rafale doing mach 1.6.

No they are not. Mica and R77 bleeds energy like crazy after burning out.

Funny, considering MICA according to number of manufacturer and ADA is in same range class as 120A/B - 80Km. Yet it cant even reach that range ingame.

GRIPEN IS NOT TOP TIER ANYMORE, NEVER WAS NEVER WILL. It was stop gap for british TT until Typhoon. It was never meant to be meta in Fox3 public matches. It was never meant to be the main top tier platform of UK.

Again, it is not… unlike with mica, i have plenty of 40+km kills on it.
Mica cant even hit beyond 30 reliably.

Stop yapping, you were yapping in flanker thread aswell just because they have a lot of trash missiles on a truck.

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I cant take you seriously with that remark please please go and compare get a jet with the R-Darter and go and compare. R-Darter has a realistic range of 10km at low altitudes the missile crashes into the ground it lofts comes down and misses. aim9M is better than the R-Darter.
It’s only saving grace is the HMD means I can shoot while turning away and even then you have no guarantee your missile will hit.

Tornado isn’t fast but it has a top tier missile and plays in top tier games. The best way to play the Tornado is to get high and fast yes it takes time and the F-15 will already be there.

There is not a single bad BVR missile in game and include the Darter/Derby

MICA 80km is likely the shot on an aircraft flying towards with no attempt to avoid. Missile tests are not against a defending target. Gripen is not top tier right now it’s in a rough place, but it faces top tier games every game is an “uptier”

Was that against a bot A-4…No one gets killed by a Darter at 40km

Flanker thread? Ooh I have a fan

No missile range in AdA are usually the maximum distance travelled, not the range at which you can shoot.

MBDA specifically made it to match/surpass AMRAAM B in terms of range, at the time.

We know it is too draggy in game because of its performances in a VL configuration, compared to what you can achieve in game if you simulate said VL configuration.

To be clear : i won’t be asking for a buff right now because the Rafale handles well imo, but stating the MICA is performing as it should is not correct

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Funny… i have fast amraam delivery platforms - 2 in fact and Darter Gripen with which good portion of these was flown in Fox3 meta and 2 mica platforms with really similar stats on both of them. Both of them rely on dumb enemy who wont respect you and will close in into extremely short effective range of mica.
Its a lightweight figter without amraam and pretty trash radar. OFC its going to suffer in current meta when it cant get reliably to mach 1,4 and sheds all speed within few ° turn at altitude.
But thats gripen. We are getting more and more high alt high speed amraam platforms that are an ABSOLUTE meta and Rafale with micas aint it until mica is fixed. Its good only because people wont respect MAR and will push into you or outright ignore you.

No… there are bug reports where its outright lacking range in test.

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80km is like 48 miles which is nothing in the BVR realms.

You might struggle with that bug report especially as Gaijin just gave you 8 of them.

There are too many players to avoid getting into the MAR, you cant stay cold forever you will always end up merging in War thunder.

To be fair I read the 80km as 80 miles 80km is not long range in the realms of BVR