Your report cannot be improved. The number of simultaneously tracked targets does not depend on the number of phased array elements. CBR should have written this.
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Why is the low altitude top speed of rafale so slow? Is the resistance too high？
What is multiple? 4? 8? 10? Even if we go with 10, that still would mean 80 different targets could be tracked since the Rafale’s AESA has over 800 modules. We don’t have any number of games where the number of enemy targets goes past 16, hence the suggestion to remove the limitation from the radar.
Even the F-35s AN/APG-81, which has double the amout of T/R modules (1676), doesnt form more than maybe 8 or so beams according to this video
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That is a PESA gif, sections of the AESA can direct multiple separate waveforms in different directions.
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There are a lot more than that in Sim battles. While yes, we don’t know how many, just not putting a cap at all doesn’t make sense. Putting it at smth like 4 would, seeing as the F-35 apparently only has 8 beams according to @BagelIsMyWaifu, with double the antenna
Only two are required to steer but depending on placement - whether it wants to go up and down will dictate which TR modules are being used to steer. Look at the front of the radar and count the TR modules. How many individual ones have a complete circle around them, separated from the rest? That would be your best solution.
It seems it has a bunch of hexagonal shaped clumps with a single center antenna, approximately 119.x number of these. It could likely track and steer up to at least 100 targets.
100x 7 = 700 + 138 additional TR modules loose.
Yes, but not for one module. Nothing changes. The number of beams is very limited, because a certain radiation power is needed to obtain the required range and a certain grid width is needed to obtain the required target tracking accuracy by angle.
Two modules are unlikely to be enough.
Limited steering and tracking is capable on just one hexagonal circle of modules surrounding a singular one. These can pass off the target to the set below them, or combine for better steering as needed to keep track of priority targets. The aircraft only needs 8 because it has 8x MICA. That’s over 100 TR modules per target. I doubt it needs that many.
Reports are not accepted on assumptions and theoretical possibilities. If you have open data on how many beams the Rafal radar can form, you can create your own report.
Theoretically yes. But in practice such a beam is useless. Otherwise, everyone would make a radar from two elements.
yep, exactly.
Though tbf, I’m not sure if with multi beam forming one can even consider the seperate beams as being formed by completely independent elements, or if all elements work together on forming multiple spikes using math that is beyond me.
But generally going “It has X elements so it must be using Y beams at all times” is stupid in all cases
The point was to say that on the most basic level, you need at least two to shift the overall waveform. The subsequent part of my comment clears up that even if you want to track 8 priority targets separately, you’d have 100 TR modules per to do it and 38 extra mixed in there.
funny statement
From what ive read on this thread, irl the speed was limited to preserve the ram coating but i guess gaijin treats it as max structular speed
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No they dont, i fly it, only decent PK is at mach 1,6+ and 10+km at 25km±.
35km, they are slow AF before they reach even 30km. Enemy has 10 years to notch it or outrun it. It doesnt keep speed. Its Rmax2 is like 30% of amraam in same conditions. Today i reached 70km of Rmax2 on AMRAAM at altitude… max range around 100KM. MICA CANT EVEN FLY past 50km, and if its to reach 50, it takes eternity. Above 20, its rock even at alt.
MICA is WORST BVR missile together with R-77 and i have feeling that even R-77 is better in high altitude high speed slinging.
“ONLY” 50km Rmax2 on target doing 1300km/h GS at 10km… iam not even going that fast, iam doing only M1.64, it can easily do 1.8-1.9 at 12km and extending that Rmax2 to 70+km. Thats mind you high PK area where its supposed to hit maneuvering targets. That amraam is going to be doing mach 3+ at that range. Mica wont even get there. SO NO… MICA CANT BVR and its useless at 35km when amraams effective range under good conditions is same as micas max range. I get same Rmax2 with mica at high alt high speed as with typhoon at like 4km at mach 1,4.
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Well well well, looks like we are getting closer and closer to a proper AESA radar… keep it up gentlemen.
Bravo to you all, hope with DS’ reports we can get this fixed asap along with the many reports regarding details missing from the HUD.
Looking forward to all of these fixes and changes!
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Yeah, theoritically, we only have 25 Large Calibre CM now, since 1 Large Calibre CM equals around 4 Small CM.
I’m not bullshitting, at least according to the luminosity factor of countermeasure in this game.
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It’s still a large chaff btw, I’m no mean to ruin the fun, but I have tested it in the TacView and the luminosity of Chaff Dispenser is the same as large flare.
Mica is not the worst, its better than the R-77 and its better than the R-Darter/Derby its the 2nd/3rd best BVR missile.
I have a squad mate that flies France and uses the MICAS at 25-30k and gets kills at those ranges with the Rafale.