Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

The Belgian F-16A block 15 also could carry AS-30L’s but Gaijin didn’t want to give it to that plane, so idk if they will implement it for the Rafale too…

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0xQBxYpyzdTr

And thats stated range of amraam. Amraam reaches these ranges in WT. Mica does not. Mica is heavily nerfed, it lacks around 37% of its range.

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That i agree

if i had it my way, i would have kept the 6 missiles and have a correct MICA

Others didn’t agree and Gaijin went the other way, it is what it is, and has been debated enough. Doesn’t change the fact that they won’t stop pumping out new aircrafts, and eventually, these bug reports will likely be sorted out.
Also, Smin previously mentionned that the 8 missile configuration and the bug reports are 2 unrelated things.

Ha that explains the confusion then

MICA should be 80km / 50 miles range. From my understanding BVR starts around 20-25 ish miles, but it isn’t really a fixed limit i suppose

MICA isn’t exactly a very long range missile, much like early AMRAAMs, and unlike Meteor, but it still is capped at 50km / 31 miles instead of the 80km / 50 miles it is supposed to achieve

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Most here agreed but when waiting for gaijin to fix something actually worked. Mica is terribly incorrect since its addition, it wont change so atleast we have ammount if nothing else.

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Likely it will be miraculously fixed when the Aim120C and R-77-1 are added…“We found some evidence”

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Keep in mind that they have massive radar bug spanning across all plane radars for 3/4 of year and its not fixed, its killing russian radars, typhoons, gripens…
Everything doing more than 2bar aroiund 50-60°. Anything above that is absolutely slaughtered due to it and they will tell you with straight face that these radars are fine and correct. Its insane. They dont even bother to play their own game and when that bug was reported on DEV already i believe, They still pushed it to live, they give 0 fk about correct balance. They will rather throw more weapons on plane instead of fixing problems.
If they cant fix bug affecting everything, cant expect them to fix one missile so its brought up on par with amraam.

To be fair, and considering the amount of bug reports they have in total, i can understand why they went the 8 missiles route

Since i’ve already been on the other side of that spectrum : you usually end up making the choice that takes the least amount of time in the short term, while having an acceptable result for the end-user / customer.
it’s generally not a good solution, because you post pone a change that will end up taking more of your time later down the road, but sometimes you don’t really have a choice ^^’

Fixing the missile would require going through / reviewing documentation, fine tuning the parameters in MICA’s config files to make it work as close as reality (which won’t be as easy as it sounds i believe), while adding 2 Micas can be done quickly, especially if they had already planned it in dev just in case and / or for future Rafale variants.

When it comes to the EF radar, i agree that it should have been fixed already… Lacking range is one thing, but having a unreliable radar at 14.0 is a major issue i’d say.

On the other hand, they had these detailed reports for months… since its addition, it would take few minutes a day or an hour per week and they would have had it by now.

They either increase its scan speed significantly or fix bug affecting all radars… honesly, there are two options for us - they wont touch it at all or increase speed. I lost any hopes in that bug being fixed.

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I have a person in the squadron I’m in who plays top tier air tournaments who would probably kill me if I were to say this to them.

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Hello everyone, quick question, am I the only one who feels like enemy RWRs don’t always see the Rafale’s radar?

I unlocked the plane yesterday and during some games the enemies didn’t always react even if I was rather offensive towards them.

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Had an Adats lock and engage me in IRST mode call me a hacker because i dodged his missile at range. He probably didn’t know that the Rafale can detect beam/laser/IR guided missile launches.

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if you can pinpoint which plane you have the issue with, a report can be done. It seems that maybe Su-33 have this issue with Rafale RWR.

The planes that didn’t react to my locks are the F-15C and E, the F-16 and the Grippen, I haven’t played against Russian or Chinese planes yet, but it’s inconsistent, sometimes they react but other times absolutely nothing

I played my F15J recently, my RWR seems to detect Rafale’s radar just fine.
For F16C and F15, I think the issue is between the chair and the keyboard…

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Does CCRP bomb sight work in Rafale HUD?

Denial is hard for people.
8 120s or MiCA or 4 Darters…

For F-16A it was only a non service test aircraft without markings so theres not much of evidence to support the addition. Rafale M F1 on the other hand was photographed with service markings and everything.

Imagine comparing light frontline fighter to heavy air superiority fighter in the first place

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